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this country has gone to the dogs

On 15 Dec 2009 at 12:26pm DFE wrote:
Businessman jailed for attacking intruder - who goes free
A millionaire businessman has been jailed for attacking a man who held his family hostage in their own home - while the criminal went free.
No doubt resident bleeding hearts will be on their soapboxes applauding this cretinous fool of a judge, but in my book the bloke shouldnt have been anywhere near a courtroom, if you break into someones house you should face whatever the HOUSEHOLDER deems necessary, if that is to bash the granny out of you whilst you're trying to escape, tough.
taken from todays telegraph on line, this makes me sick
On 15 Dec 2009 at 1:12pm yawn wrote:
No it hasn't, it is lovely.
On 15 Dec 2009 at 1:14pm DFE wrote:
yawn, suprised you had to to let go of the tree hugging long enough to type
On 15 Dec 2009 at 1:38pm Mystic Mog wrote:
The court heard Hussain and his brother Tokeer, who both live in Desborough Road, chased intruder Walid Salem, leaving him with a permanent brain injury after he was hit with a cricket bat so hard that it broke into three pieces.
Salem was the only intruder caught after the incident on 3 September 2008, but his injuries meant he was not fit to plead after being charged with false imprisonment.
Salem was given a two-year supervision order at a court hearing in September this year.
On 15 Dec 2009 at 1:41pm DFE wrote:
your point is?
On 15 Dec 2009 at 1:50pm Prick Stein wrote:
If the bloke hadn't have broken into the house he wouldn't have got hit, simple! It's the intruders fault!
On 15 Dec 2009 at 2:06pm Bunter wrote:
That's funny Prick, on the Winter thread I didn't notice you saying, 'If they hadn't wrongly put the fireworks in the metal container they wouldn't have exploded and the firefighters wouldn't have died'.
On 15 Dec 2009 at 2:10pm DFE wrote:
what happened to being able to defend your property?
On 15 Dec 2009 at 2:29pm Bunter wrote:
DFE: I think when two of you at least are whacking someone on the ground half way up the street you're no longer defending your property.
On 15 Dec 2009 at 2:30pm DFE wrote:
where was he to get caught? oh yeah robbing the joint
On 15 Dec 2009 at 3:11pm Bunter wrote:
DFE: you said 'defend your property'. When you've got the criminal out of your place you're not on your property any longer. There were enough of them - why didn't they7 hold him till the police turned up?
On 15 Dec 2009 at 3:43pm Down and Out wrote:
DFE - the law says that you can use reasonable force to defend your property or prevent a crime. You clearly think that 'reasonable' is an unacceptable limitation. So if you ever drive up my street at 31mph, I'll pull you from your car and smash you to a vegetable (won't take long, I guess). Is that OK?
On 15 Dec 2009 at 4:34pm Rex wrote:
On 16 Dec 2009 at 3:09am Brixtonbelle wrote:
well said bunter and down and out.
On 16 Dec 2009 at 7:35am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I find it ironic that some on here, who are quick to say that Martin Winter was guilty of manslaughter because he failed to follow the the law on firework storage to the letter, fail to extend the same principle to two guys who chased a burglar down the street and smashed a cricket bat to bits round his head, clearly in contravention of the legal principle of reasonableness in self-defence and at a point where they were no longer at risk and were not preventing the commission of a crime.
Double standards there, I think.

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