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On 13 Jan 2006 at 12:38am Mrs S Doherty wrote:
Newhaven dose not want or need an incinerator on our door stop.we want peple to come visit and bringe more work to help biled back to what we once were not to pull us down and risk our healths
On 13 Jan 2006 at 7:48am anon wrote:
Newhaven obviously needs better English teachers
On 13 Jan 2006 at 9:39am Chav wrote:
Don't dis my muvva
On 13 Jan 2006 at 4:48pm Gary wrote:
Spelling ain't what it used to be. Must've gone to school in Peacehaven!
On 14 Jan 2006 at 3:19pm I dont live in Lewes anymore wrote:
Well... It can't be sited in Seaford cos it's far to upper class.
Newhaven is the place for an incinerator for sure...
On 14 Jan 2006 at 8:15pm Gary wrote:
Surely that's far TOO upper class Phil???
On 15 Jan 2006 at 10:29pm Alfie Noakes wrote:
Well if it ends up in Newhaven then I do hope the fumes find their way into County Hall to choke those damned arsÚs that allowed it to come here. Don't forget the fumes migh travel nicely to Seaford, Peacehaven and goodness knows where else.
On 16 Jan 2006 at 9:14am I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
As the UK's prevailing wind is SW (Seaford is East-ish of N/haven, I can say with some certainty that Seaford will get its fair share of "fresh" fallout.
Now look here...
We all know that an incinerator is a bad idea, however, I expect those nice people in charge have calculated that it's cheapest way to get rid of rubbish... so it WILL happen.
Like it or not N/haven is not a pretty town.
A generous portion of pylons and radio aerials seamlessly inter mingle with the harbour area, complete with its piles of gravel and old, rusting tumble down sheds.
The housing is cheaper as compared to its neighbouring towns... N/Haven looks like a run down town ?cos it is.
The only thing I'm unsure of is how the incinerator fits in with the new Master plans... the North Quay development (houses/flats/shops/marina.
Wouldn't have thought it was a selling feature...
On 17 Jan 2006 at 6:17pm SHS wrote:
100% certainty it will go ahead. Consultations, public inquiries, meetings with concerned groups etc etc - all a sham, the results completely ignored. There is no democracy any more, I'm amazed people are so slow to realise it....
On 18 Jan 2006 at 12:26pm I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
We think very alike SHS.
Remember ""We shall fight them on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender,""
Yes SHS people can be slooooow and dim.
I notice lots of them make placards against the incinerator then plant them in their gardens amongst the roses.
It's a futile jesture... spose it's therapeutic.
Dunno if Democracy is dead (too screwed by apathy) but it's sure spluttering at times.
On 18 Jan 2006 at 5:55pm tabby wrote:
Sure, some would agree that Newhaven does have "A generous portion of pylons and radio aerials seamlessly inter mingle with the harbour area, complete with its piles of gravel and old, rusting tumble down sheds."
On 18 Jan 2006 at 6:02pm Tabby wrote:
Well that is no good reason to just give in and let the authorities take no notice.
Do you not think there is any point in having an opinion and experssing it?
Well, you could just sit back and let them do what we dont want them to as if we could not cair how our taxes are spent.
On 19 Jan 2006 at 8:38am I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
Can you make something that's bad worse? ?? ???
Yes! sure you can... but that alternative is far preferable to making something that's nice horrible.
Wonder if it's ever crossed your mind Tab'that the proposed North Quay development and the siting of the Incinerator are in some way connected?
A bit of a trade of maybe?
On 19 Jan 2006 at 8:42am I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
There maybe a point of protesting to the right person at the right time over a contentious issue... that being a prospective parliamentary candidate at election time.
Else, as previously stated, it does seem a waste of time as it tends not to greatly affect the outcome.
On 20 Jan 2006 at 4:58pm COCOA BUTTER wrote:
What are you going on about?
On 24 Jan 2006 at 9:47am I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
Ask yer mum next time you see her...may be she'll explain it to you.
On 24 Jan 2006 at 5:18pm Tabby wrote:
Incineration does not significantly reduce waste, it is not conducive to recycling, it does not reduce transport movements nor transport pollution, it does not remove the necessity for landfill.
Incineration produces hazardous waste, which is more difficult to landfill.
The planning application's plans to deal with Bottom Ash are ill defined and inadequate. Landfill will be required in order to dispose of the bottom ash.
Basically, it produces residues that are more harmful than the original waste.
Put simply; incineration is the complete opposite of a "sustainable solution".

Neither does incineration create jobs nor enrich the local economy.

The environmental impact assessment is inadequate in respect of the impact of flooding of the incinerator.
At high tide the bottom of the incinerator will be 12m below the water level; hence the underground water pressure will be 2.2 bar. It does not make sense to place such a building in 12m of water, there are bound to be problems as the building ages.

Construction traffic will have a very negative effect on the environment in Newhaven and on the surrounding area.

Incineration is not the answer - where ever it is located.
On 25 Jan 2006 at 11:28am cocoa butter wrote:
It should be maybe
On 26 Jan 2006 at 7:51pm I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
Great post Tabby raising a fair few good points.
The question that still remains is...
Is it cheaper???
Cos if it isn't then what's the TRUE motivation?
On the "where to put the incinerator" issue...
I would have thought that the siting of the firey dragon was governed by the availabilty of a cheap piece of land that no one wants for house building. Sozs, if it's not ideally sited then it comes as no suprise.
I don't follow your argument on transport movements/transport pollution. A dust cart will still collect waste from peoples houses. I don't see the difference in transport pollution if that dust cart lugs it to a landfill site or to an incinerator.
On a personal note, up until recently I have been pro recycling.
However in Seaford the recycling men who troll the streets in their environmentally friendly over grown electric milk float.... "DON'T TAKE EXTRAS MATE".
All those plastic bottles and empty tins that I bothered to rinse and crush must be a real strain to lift.
My heart goes out to them.
Following on from their shiny example the dustmen now take a few extra bags each week.
Strange but true... ... ...
On 26 Jan 2006 at 7:55pm I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
Fank yer mum 4 correktin me spelin.
On 26 Jan 2006 at 11:02pm lewestrousers wrote:
I was hoping alot more people would get on of those new bikes for christmas....not a bicycle but a recycle, or maybe there would be a protest at the amount of packaging at supermarkets or something...then again we are running out of gas and oil so maybe rubbish is all thats left to burn
On 27 Jan 2006 at 7:54am hoody wrote:
I can't wait for the incinerator personally.
Working 24/7 think of the job opportunities.
It's just what Newhaven needs.
On 27 Jan 2006 at 11:39am jono wrote:
oi hoody do u know where i can buy a pallet?

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