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On 14 May 2010 at 10:23pm j.p wrote:
Cameron to legalize fox hunting
On 14 May 2010 at 10:40pm Roly Mo wrote:
I think it is going to be a free vote in the Commons. Lets hope it fails.
On 15 May 2010 at 1:19pm not from around here wrote:
Let's hope it succeeds.
On 15 May 2010 at 1:32pm Clifford wrote:
And the fox says...?
On 15 May 2010 at 7:04pm TDA wrote:
On 15 May 2010 at 7:19pm Decent Citizen wrote:
On 15 May 2010 at 8:18pm MC wrote:
For fox sake... not more expensive parliamentary time wasted on these juveniles (well, your development has to be stunted if you enjoy killing animals).
On 16 May 2010 at 10:47am bob wrote:
many serial killers and psychos enjoy torturing and killing small animals before they progress onto human prey. just a thought.
On 16 May 2010 at 3:20pm LOVE wrote:
conservatives for you.
On 16 May 2010 at 3:33pm LOVE wrote:
why dont we get those who do fox hunting and hunt them down and get dogs to rip them up to bits .And after we all go for drink afterwards .
On 16 May 2010 at 9:34pm MC wrote:
Cos generally they are the people with the guns
On 17 May 2010 at 8:19am Mr Change wrote:
Not to mention being the ones in power...!
On 17 May 2010 at 4:46pm Dripping Pan Stan wrote:
I'd welcome the return of Fox Hunting, it creates jobs in deprived rural areas and is a great event steeped in history and tradition. I think the human benefits easily out weight a few foxes (vermin) getting their faces kicked off by some angry Beagles.
We should take it a step further and dress Chav's (human vermin) up as foxes - I doubt anyone would complain about them being hunted.
On 17 May 2010 at 10:41pm Stans pipe wrote:
I know people that work for the hunt stables, and as far as I am aware no jobs were lost, so that argument doesn't hold up. History and tradition? Well it used to be tradition to send kids up chimneys, dunk people under water to see if they were witches and burn people at the stake. Does that make it right? And if foxes are vermin, what are deer?
Rather than chavs being hunted I think we should chase the people who hunt. Perfect, I would go and see that. In fact I would learn to ride so that I could chase them, until they are exhausted and once they go to ground, I would get someone to dig them out so that they could be thrown to the dogs. Very sporting.
On 17 May 2010 at 11:07pm jrsu wrote:
I have an open mind on fox hunting having lived most of my life in the city I am however disturbed that it has become yet another subject that one cannot discuss without being labelled an animal hater of worse. In our democratic country there are too many people who will not allow sensible discussion/debate on certain subjects, religion and immigration are the most prominent of those.
By talking about these emotive matters greater good will come as opposed to people being almost frightened to mention them for fear of being verbally abused. People should respect other peoples views even if they do differ from their own.
On 18 May 2010 at 6:33am brixtonbelle wrote:
is that some sort of a warning jrsu ? no one's getting abusive ....yet
On 18 May 2010 at 8:24am jrsussex wrote:
Most definately not. It is that just with the election having brought the matter back onto the agenda, the assumption being that the Tory party will rescind current legislation I have noticed that it appears to be slipping into the category of "subjects not to be discussed" unless you accept a particular stance on it. No subject should be beyond sensible debate however distastful that matter may be to some people. During a discussion on fox hunting on Sunday of this week three anti-fox hunters got very personal with the result that some people walked away and the discussion came to and. That's my point, no-one gained, the discussion ended due to one side not being prepared to listen to the others sides argument in a reasonable manner.
I believe that if the societies problems are to be solved then talking about them is probably the most important ingredient.
History is littered wiht examples of wars, genocide etc caused by only one view being allowed to prevail.
On 18 May 2010 at 12:59pm LOVE wrote:
why not get farmers to use some sort of good fencing, then maybe fox wont touch there live stock .there are more ways of dealing with fox with out killing them . it seems to me mc likes the fox killings maybe he likes seeing animals suffer
On 18 May 2010 at 1:14pm Clifford wrote:
I have always found myself in the interesting position of thinking the hunt is a magnificent spectacle, that killing animals in this way is barbaric, and that the business of the government is to interfere with what people do as little as possible. Ah, the problems of being a libertarian!
On 19 May 2010 at 12:48pm not from around here wrote:
I am also in the position of not personally wanting to hunt any foxes and I'm not particularly interestedin watching a hunt myself - BUT, i will defend the right of others to carry-out this pursuit without interference from an urban-minded government. We need government that will impact on our lives only when it is absolutely needed. Government should our servant not our master.
And lets face it, the whole fox hunting ban was about class and the left-wing's bitterness and jealousy of that class.
Ok, so some of you don't like fox hunting? Then don't go, just let others that do enjoy it live their lives without interference. For those that compare the rights of a fox with the rights of human - I feel sorry for you that your morality has become so distorted. They are just foxes, get over it!
On 19 May 2010 at 6:34pm Clifford wrote:
Not from round here - I'm a left-wing libertarian and oppose the ban. I never understand why people think opposition to the unfairness of capitalism is based on 'bitterness and jealousy' - envy and greed are the emotions that capitalism trades on and encourages.
On 20 May 2010 at 6:27am Clive wrote:
What a load of cr*p, not from aroud here, it was not about Labour's bitterness about the upper class- after all in some areas of the country hunting was carried out by farmers and the working class, AND there were several tory mp's who supported the ban. It was about the fact that it is cruel and immoral. Badger baiting was banned in 1835 by a tory government-was that a class issue against gypsies and the working class? Do you defend the right of the people who want to fight with dogs? Should we forget about the protection of ANY animal, because after all, they are just animals and don't have rights? Perhaps you should go out on a hunt (in which they do stll catch and kill a fox) and see if you enjoy what you see.

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