On 28 Dec 2011 at 8:22am DFL wrote:
Never been able to get my head around why killing animals is a sport. Cows, sheep, pigs for food - yes, but foxes, stags, otters - no ! How any human being can stand and watch a pack of hounds ripping a fox apart beggars belief. I agree we need to keep foxes culled because they can be pests, but surely in this so called "modern age", we have better, and more humane ways, of controlling these ? A very sad day for the human race that we still have people in our midst that support these blood "sports".
On 28 Dec 2011 at 8:27am Twister wrote:
DFL...go back to London,
On 28 Dec 2011 at 8:39am hunter wrote:
‚??Hunting by hounds is the most natural and humane way of controlling the population of all four quarry species - fox, deer, hare and mink - in the countryside.‚?Ě Statement supported by over 500 members of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons.
‚??Naturally, people ask whether we were implying that hunting is cruel‚?¶The short answer to that question is no.‚?Ě
Lord Burns, chair. Inquiry into Hunting with dogs.
This confirmed the findings of an earlier Government inquiry. Both inquiries found that death was almost instantaneous. The inquiry also found that shotgun use in the day & snaring - the main alternatives to hunting - are worse for animal welfare.
On 28 Dec 2011 at 9:24am Mr fox wrote:
I agree with dfl, how chasing a fox so it is so tired that it can't move, then ripping it limb from limb is more humane than shooting it stone dead in less than a second is beyond me, I think people who still support this type of blood sport should be chased and ripped apart to see how they like it?
On 28 Dec 2011 at 9:30am Hunter wrote:
Foxes and other quarry species are not hunted to the point of physical exhaustion and collapse, rather to the point where, when still running hard, they are caught up by the leading hounds. Equally deer will turn and face the hounds at bay when they are then shot by the huntsman. The huntsman cannot afford to deliberately prolong the chase because if he does so the hounds will be unable to continue the chase because of lack of scent.
On 28 Dec 2011 at 11:39am My Bleeding Heart wrote:
Hey dfl, my 2 terriers shredded a rat yesterday. Do I have to turn myself in???
On 28 Dec 2011 at 11:54am Luddite wrote:
Normal people do not kill animals for fun. However, a major issue is the fact that the Tory Party on horseback, dressed up in their Jonnie Walker outfits, simply cannot abide being told what to do by the peasants in Parliament. Bottom line is "we're bred to rule and we do what we like".
On 28 Dec 2011 at 2:55pm not from around here wrote:
Mr Fox, you said:
"I think people who still support this type of blood sport should be chased and ripped apart to see how they like it?"
The fact that you even consider putting people on the same level as foxes shows how distorted YOUR values are.
On 28 Dec 2011 at 4:16pm p.c wrote:
well luddite we do what we like . is what tony blair did !
on to fox hunting the point about hunting. Is to keep the fox numbers down
On 28 Dec 2011 at 5:56pm jrsussex wrote:
I wonder what percentage of the anti-foxhunting brigade own a cat? The country's greatest predator by far, killing of our small wild life.
On 28 Dec 2011 at 7:02pm Mr fox wrote:
I am not against killing animals as long as it is quick, humane and for a purpose. Fox hunting effectively amounts to torture.
Not from round here,
Great come back you really get a point across,
On 29 Dec 2011 at 1:24am Peasant wrote:
The hunts used to kill about 20,000 foxes per year, but our motor cars run over nearer 100,000.
On 29 Dec 2011 at 8:09am DFL wrote:
Hunter - you quote that 500 members of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons support fox hunting, I think you'll find that the RCVS DO NOT support blood sports.
Twister, I'm not from London, I use DFL to bring home the fact that we British can live anywhere in these isles we please to. So please stay objective.
My Bleeding heart - I hope you enjoyed them for supper, lots of protein I understand !
On 29 Dec 2011 at 8:56am Clifford wrote:
I'm about as left-wing as you can get without falling off the edge of the world - but I've always opposed the hunting ban. Work that one out.
On 29 Dec 2011 at 9:50am Leaf wrote:
When I was younger the local hunt often trespassed on the land where I lived we saw first hand that the fox does get caught when exhausted and the hounds were often treated badly, this years boxing day brigade looked more like The only way is Essex goes hunting, more fashion that tradition.
On 29 Dec 2011 at 10:27am bastian wrote:
quite so, the town was full of fake gentry, very wierd.I have lived in the country all my life and I still oppose hunting with hounds.Shooting, nice clean kill no pain, no problem.if it were not for pheasant shooting we wouldn't have any woods.
On 30 Dec 2011 at 11:56pm Pilesqueen wrote:
Its the ponce people riding the horses I hate. It makes them feel important sitting high up, looking down on everyone. Then you have their siblings, the (my little pony) brigade, with their fat bottoms and netted hair
On 31 Dec 2011 at 9:06am mickyboy wrote:
killing animals for sport, foxes are vermin killed for necessity, quicker and more productive to do it with a gun however.
On 31 Dec 2011 at 10:28am Mr fox. wrote:
Ask yourself this. Given the choice would you like to be torn apart by animals or face a firing squad. If the answer is the former then I suggest you join an S&M club.
On 31 Dec 2011 at 11:12am hunter wrote:
its a fox why care!!
On 31 Dec 2011 at 12:20pm padster wrote:
Luddite, i could not agree with you more, well said and very true. Toffs rampaging around the countryside , make me sick. On a brighter note wonderful to hear that waste of space philip in hospital on boxing day saves a few more innocent animal lives from his gun toting "fun" day out.
On 31 Dec 2011 at 1:14pm Yawn... wrote:
It's a buzzard, why care, it's a kestrel why care, it's a hen harrier, why care.
It's a hunter, why care.
On 31 Dec 2011 at 1:31pm Kettle wrote:
Let's face it, it would have been banned with the rest of the cruel sports if the creeps who did it were not posh folk.
On 31 Dec 2011 at 1:35pm Kettle wrote:
And I don't call the current situation 'banned' because the 'ban' is not enforced.
On 31 Dec 2011 at 2:47pm bastian wrote:
"the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible"