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corbyn – mowlam’s envoy, met ira and loyalists.

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On 29 May 2017 at 2:14pm SQ wrote:
Word reached the SKWAWKBOX during the writing of this article that the Sun has been trailing that it’s ‘going big’ on Jeremy Corbyn at 10pm this evening. If it’s preparing another IRA-related smear after it disgraced itself with its ‘Blood on hands’ attack, which appeared after the terrible events in Manchester on Monday, it’s going to have egg on its face.
The Sun is not the only right-wing publication to attempt the same smear. Another rag carried a cartoon showing masked terrorists campaigning door to door for the Labour leader.
Such smears could not be further from the truth – which the SKWAWKBOX brings you exclusively.
This blog has spent a significant part of this month talking to various people on both sides of the republican/loyalist divide, digging to get cast-iron confirmation, from people who were there, of one core fact:
Jeremy Corbyn’s was an envoy of the British government who played a vital role in the Northern Ireland peace process.
Not only that, but he met – and was highly regarded by – senior figures in both republican and loyalist groups.

Check it out here »
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On 29 May 2017 at 2:45pm Cobblers wrote:
What?
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On 29 May 2017 at 3:31pm WTF! wrote:
Excellent article which completely destroys the the Tories smear campaign designed to draw attention away from their rapidly falling support.
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On 30 May 2017 at 7:48am Dripping Pan Stan wrote:
In the interest of balance there are some who don't think that's the case.

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On 30 May 2017 at 8:42am Andymac wrote:
Peeling away all the recent frantic Corbynista spindoctoring (which I thought Jezza didn't lower himself to btw, but it's funny how people change), the fundamental accusations against Corbyn in this respect I think boil down to:
- He was a vocal public supporter of Irish Republican terrorists, attending and speaking at events and demonstrations organised by what were effectively IRA front organisations, during a period when the IRA was conducting an active murder campaign against British soldiers, police and civilians across the UK
- He completely bought into and supported the IRA's political narrative at that time (Violence is only a result of British oppression, NI is basically a British colony and the IRA are freedom fighters, socialist united Ireland the only solution, unionists are either dupes or fascists etc etc)
- He believed (and I suspect still does) that there was an absolute moral equivalence between the IRA shooting a soldier and a soldier shooting an IRA terrorist, and that a dead IRA terrorist was the same as a dead British soldier.
None of the points in SKWAWKBOX article deal with these accusations, all of which I think are true and can be fairly easily checked against Jezza's activities, speeches etc. You may agree with Corbyn on these points - that is your prerogative. I don't. I think the IRA were and are a vile organisation, and their supporters and fellow travellers like Corbyn little better.
However, even if you have a different point of view, please don't insult my intelligence by trying to now pretend that Corbyn was some kind undercover secret agents working tirelessly to bring peace to a troubled province. The fact that he met a couple of loyalist leaders a few times over the decades and that he got on OK with Ian Paisley on a personal level proves precisely nothing.
I do believe Corbyn wanted to bring peace to Northern Ireland: however he (and McDonnell and Abbott) wanted to achieve this by effectively surrendering and giving IRA everything they wanted, because they really thought fundamentally that the IRA were the good guys.
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On 30 May 2017 at 11:34am Sensible wrote:
Evil history and actions, and I think the same of every socialist or other Labour-like supporter trying to canvas against the Conservative Party. Those dissenters agree by their vote with all that Andymac has written, and worse. Decades of bombing in England, the perpetrators and their associates rightly interned without trial (no need for one), and now people in this country want to side with the terrorists again? They, too, are worthy of internment. Have you no idea how horrifying the IRA's terrorism was? Have you forgotten the Brighton bombing? The Conservative Party's majority is going to be record-breaking and I wouldn't like to be near anyone outed as a Corbyn supporter after the election. I really, really would not. Whatever has twisted these people so much?
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On 30 May 2017 at 11:50pm Mike Heaslip wrote:
The thing with the IRA, I lived it. The Uk goverment banned the political part of the IRA even though they were voted for in N.Ireland. Corbyn kept the channels of discussion open nothing more. The worst he could be charged with was wanting a united Ireland. His knowledge on the prisoners relations helped break the deadlock of the peace process. We talked to both sides not just one. One of the things he campaigned against male prison offers strip searching females who had been detained under the interment process.
The reason he was involved at all was because his constituency had lots of Irish. Honesty I think anyone who looks at Corbyn and his whole history would allow any failing 30 plus years ago because it's not conceivable that he could be trying to do harm to anyone.
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On 31 May 2017 at 2:15am Corbyn man of Peace wrote:
Corbyn 29/11/1994 Islington North Signed
Bombing In Birmingham, November 1974 (EDM28)
Bombing In Birmingham, November 1974 by David Winnick: That this House notes that it is 20 years since the mass killings of 21 people in Birmingham as a result of terrorist violence; deplores that such an atrocity occurred and again extends its deepest sympathy to the relatives of those murdered and...
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On 31 May 2017 at 11:47am bushy wrote:
the articles that state corbyn met loyalists are pure unadulterated fiction, mike heaslip i also ''lived it'' with the ira , what unit were you in and how many tours did you do mike ?


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