On 23 Aug 2008 at 5:18pm river boy wrote:
cliffe high street what a wast of tax payers money
On 23 Aug 2008 at 5:48pm Humdrum wrote:
Well what a well thought out, interlectual arguement that was.
Crikey, at least justify your comments
On 23 Aug 2008 at 6:13pm Roly Mo wrote:
I'm sure when they built it several hundred years ago, the tax payers were quite happy with it.
On 23 Aug 2008 at 6:19pm river boy wrote:
well what was wrong with the cliffe .ok may need to lay new piping ect down go along with that. but its going to be dug up filled in . then duged up again so on
On 23 Aug 2008 at 6:37pm Humdrum wrote:
Are you ok River Boy ? it's seems you may be drunk
On 23 Aug 2008 at 7:06pm riverboy wrote:
its the wine
On 23 Aug 2008 at 7:38pm Humdrum wrote:
Thought it might be the whine
On 24 Aug 2008 at 1:45am Doink the clown wrote:
No, he's stark HONKING mad!!!
HONK HONK!!!! he he he!!
On 24 Aug 2008 at 10:46am gloria mundi wrote:
Well, Andrew Clark of Louis Potts says he loves it.
On 24 Aug 2008 at 12:24pm Local wrote:
Pedestrianisation always means the death of an area - look at any town or city where it's been done. In this case, the street will have to be renamed Bill's Terrace.
On 24 Aug 2008 at 2:05pm The Tooth Fairy wrote:
That's a very good point Local. I remember the 'closing down sale' signs going up in Newhaven High Street at exactly the same time as the ribbon was cut to open the ring road. A once vibrant heart to the town reduced to a retail waste land. We shall have to wait and see.
On 25 Aug 2008 at 7:23am sashimi wrote:
Hang on TF, Newhaven town centre was destroyed by ESCC building a race track round it that made it difficult and unpleasant to reach the pedestrianised area. It was the same mistake they made with Birmingham's Bull Ring. Clearly the mess they are making of the building works isn't helping, but if it isn't successful it will be for entirely different reasons.
On 25 Aug 2008 at 7:32pm The Tooth Fairy wrote:
That's a fair point to an extent, Sashimi. A multi storey car park was built (though I can't remember if it was at the same time as the road) so parking to visit the High Street is not an issue. As I said, we shall have to wait and see.
On 28 Aug 2008 at 12:37pm Andrew Richardson wrote:
Pedestrianisation does not always mean the death of an area. There are countless examples of where this is not the case, including the other side of the Cliffe bridge!
On 28 Aug 2008 at 1:35pm Ziggy wrote:
I am sure once finished it will look great but may well become a bit cafe culture. What anoys me as a Cliffe high street resident is the noise on a Saturday and Sunday morning, it is hard to believe that if they work 7 days a week they are still running 6 months behind and now don't expect to finish until June, I might be grey by then......
On 29 Aug 2008 at 10:08am Local wrote:
Andrew Richardson - I don't think I'd give the other side of the Cliffe Bridge as a won derful example of the benefits of pedestrianisation. Quite the opposite. Others may disagree but to me it seems a barren, dead area. Look at some pictures of the old Lewes when it was a living space.
On 29 Aug 2008 at 10:28am Nosey Parker wrote:
Isn't the pedestrianisation about recreating a typical surburban London street?
On 29 Aug 2008 at 10:31am Local wrote:
Nosey - Unfortunately I think you're probably right: there's nothing more lifeless than a London suburban street.
On 3 Sep 2008 at 11:19am Ziggy wrote:
I don't see how with wider pavements and 2 cycle lanes it will be anything like a typical suburban London street, in fact I really don't know what they are trying to create. Local is right in saying that the other side of the bridge does look somewhat barren except during market days. I can imagine Bills having alot of tables in the street and no doubt Real Eating will do the same, just need Andy to set up a few barrals and stools outside the Gardeners and we'll all be happy.....perhaps we can make all Cliffe only use the new local currancy as well or have I drifted onto another debate...