On 19 Dec 2019 at 6:35pm roygibby wrote:
any recommendations how to deal with a bullying manager
nasty snide comments . given more work than others in the office .
checking up whiles on holiday by text . have recording of the person stating what they want and how it will happen .
just need a little constitutive advise
On 19 Dec 2019 at 6:37pm roygibby wrote:
On 19 Dec 2019 at 8:43pm pickle wrote:
Is there a manager above him/her that you could talk to? What kind of company is it that you work for?
On 19 Dec 2019 at 8:47pm dairyman wrote:
If the manager is part of the problem (very common), either go to HR dept or try the ACAS helpline
Telephone: 0300 123 1100
Textphone: 18001 0300 123 1100
Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm
Other possibility is Citizens Advice, but they can be very busy..
There is help out there, just keep looking.
Hang in there.
On 19 Dec 2019 at 11:27pm Mark wrote:
I'd say that we're all pretty much out there and alone in Boris Johnson's Britain.
On 20 Dec 2019 at 7:12am Sleeveless wrote:
It would be good to know what type, size of company you work for. Do you belong to a trade union?
It is likely that a bigger company will have established grievance processes, confidential reporting systems etc.
On 20 Dec 2019 at 7:40am curriedfavour wrote:
Iíve encountered this in the last two jobs I was in. In both cases I ended up being let go but with severance each time of 5k & 7k respectively. Also in both cases I went on to a far better job. I didnít fight against it as the companies were so small there was no HR department and I didnít have the stomach for a legal battle. They have to follow a due process if they want you out and then pay you a load of cash so they may be treating you unpleasantly you get you to leave before they have to go through this.
On 20 Dec 2019 at 9:03am Nevillman wrote:
It depends on the situation. In my experience going to HR is the same as going to senior management and although they will be nicer with you than your boss they will almost certainly side with your boss. Get as much valuable experience as you can and look elsewhere would be my view. Work hard not to let them get to you, believe in your own capabilities. A possible approach depending on the circumstances is talk to your boss. If you do talk to your boss about it be uncomplaining, factual, unemotional and explain that their approach to you is not getting the best out of you. Find out what their problem is with you.
On 20 Dec 2019 at 6:04pm Meridian wrote:
I was a Union personal caseworker for several years, so am coming from some experience in dealing with management bullying. First, you will need evidence of what's been happening. Write notes, including dates, of what happened, when. Obviously, past experiences may be difficult to remember, but from now on write notes immediately after it has occured. Include names of any witnesses if there are any (but don't count on anyone backing you up). I do know that usually the bully does it when no-one else is around, but the notes will help (these notes are for you to share with a senior manager / HR / Union rep,etc, not the bully). As said above, be clear and don't be too emotional, but you can say how it made you feel as this is part of the evidence. Also, every time single you and your manager talk about work, even when not in bullying mode, make notes in front of them about what's discussed, actions agreed, etc, and then send them a copy - that alone may stop the bullying. If they don't respond or question your understanding of what they want you to do, they then can't use that against you in the future. Get a copy of the company's bullying and harassment policy and procedures (probably online if you're a larger company), and ensure you follow the procedures if you do want to make a complaint. For workload, list out what you do and the time the tasks generally take - again, if you're a larger place there should be a standard list of the percentage of tasks in the role. A job description of your role or a similar role should have these. Also, talk to colleagues in your or similar roles about this, to see how your job actually matches up against theirs. Note that most job descriptions have a bit about 'any other duties' management give you; these have to be commensurate with your role and grade, not for instance cleaning the loos if you are an IT person,for example. Once you have some evidence, definitely talk to your bosses boss, or HR. Take someone with you as support if possible. And make notes of that meeting! Then share those with whoever you talk to. If any actions are put forward that you are unsure of, think them over before agreeing. Plus, join your Union if there is one, although they might not help with existing problems. But if you've had one problem with your manager, and challenged them, you will get more. Hope that helps. Good luck.
On 20 Dec 2019 at 6:09pm Meridian wrote:
PS - be careful using the recording. There may be rules against this in your company (that's usual everywhere), and can in itself be a disciplinary or sackable offence.
On 21 Dec 2019 at 9:12am Basil wrote:
Mark wrote: 'I'd say that we're all pretty much out there and alone in Boris Johnson's Britain.'
Yes, because problems with employers only began on 13 December 2019. Wasn't it those nice Lib Dems who helped the Tories start charging to go to an employment tribunal for issues like this?
On 21 Dec 2019 at 9:17am Sleeveless wrote:
Mark, is your glass is always half empty.