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another europe is posssible

On 19 May 2016 at 3:54pm VOTE IN wrote:
Another Europe is possible.VOTE IN..A new movement is forming with a simple message: ‘Stay in Europe to change Europe.’
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Join Yanis Varoufakis, Caroline Lucas, Muzna Al-Naib, Katia Widlak, Amelia Womack, Asad Rehman, Anthony Barnett, John McDonnell, Owen Jones, Michael Mansfield and a host of other campaigners to discuss and debate the ideas we need to win.Saturday, 28 May 2016 from 11:00 to 17:00 (BST) - Add to CalendarUCL Institute of Education (IOE) - 20 Bedford Way, London, WC1H 0AL -

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On 19 May 2016 at 4:31pm Dear God… wrote:
Sorry I switched off when I got to
Caroline Lucas …
On 19 May 2016 at 4:37pm Capesy wrote:
She`s one of the few Greens with any sense.
On 19 May 2016 at 5:01pm Poo wrote:
The green party which get ££££ from the E U funs
On 19 May 2016 at 5:05pm Clifford wrote:
Another Tory party is possible. So if all progressives and radicals join it... See, just as absurd. You don't change a neo-liberal project that is the creature of big business by staying in, you leave it.
On 19 May 2016 at 5:34pm VOTE IN wrote:
Says Clifford, the pathetic armchair Anarchist.
On 19 May 2016 at 6:15pm PN wrote:
Even Cliffords fellow ersatz Marxist poseur Paul Mason ,( who talks much the same crap but better ), advised that to leave now would be a mandate for a sharp swing right .Boris Johnson and Michael Gove would insist that article 50 was invoked immediately and mount a challenge to Cameron’s leadership
Such a thing is pretty simple in the Conservative Party and with Corbyn and his superannuated student polticos forming the nominal opposition and every single piece of Labour protection d0one away with ( better still Scotland gone) the landscape could change as Scotland`s has done .
In fact outside the single market I can`t see that any other strategy is viable and its not new , look at Ireland , despite their travails the average standard opf living is still better than ours .
The EU is an attempt to moderate the market whilst using it but it has always had a centre of gravity to the left of the UK. That why it needs sensible advocates of free trade and the market and crtics of an over mighty state within it .There is a place for scepticism in the EU on both the left and the right
On 19 May 2016 at 7:36pm Earl of Lewes wrote:
I'd have more respect for VOTE IN/Captain Pragmatic if the had the decency to post under the same user name, instead of pretending to be lots of different people. That smacks of desperation.
On 19 May 2016 at 9:47pm Clifford wrote:
VOTE IN calls me an 'Anarchist', while under his other identity of PN he calls me a 'Marxist'. I can't be both so perhaps he should make his mind up.
On 19 May 2016 at 10:18pm Earl of Lewes wrote:
@Clifford I'm pretty sure that VOTE IN and Paul Newman aren't the same person, even if their views are cut from the same corporate cloth.
On 19 May 2016 at 11:01pm ???? wrote:
Clifford is a Clown.
On 19 May 2016 at 11:45pm Hal wrote:
Cfifford, That statement you made earlier about leaving is about the best thing I have read on this subject! Simply put and cuttingly true. Keep it up!
On 21 May 2016 at 6:59pm al wrote:
But he's wrong, Hal. He thinks there are multiple posters, and there are. But they are not who he thinks they are.
On 21 May 2016 at 9:36pm Jonny wrote:
This is all to setup Boris as our next PM, vote in or out it makes no difference. I've got a grand on him already.

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