On 22 Sep 2013 at 1:39am Jeremy Clarkson wrote:
Those professional prophets of doom The I.P.C.C. produce another load of hysterical rubbish to try and back up their increasingly unbelievable claims about so called man made global warming.
They keep on making these claims funded by governments determined to tax us back in to the stone age.
I wish they`d spend our money and do something usefull with their sad lives like concentrating on building more roads and finding us cheaper fuel.
The fact is they have been rumbled,it has been proved that their computer models are rubbish.The growing number of scientists that dare to speak out agindt this hoax are deprived of funding and are losing their jobs.
It`s pretty clear what is going on ,we are walking blindfold into a new era of state sponsored eco fascism.
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On 22 Sep 2013 at 4:08am Clarkson's an Idiot. wrote:
Seriously??? Stop being a fool and actually look at the evidence rather than sticking to your rigid ideologies. We have a duty of care for our planet and those we leave behind. You cannot possibly have any children otherwise you would think differently. You never have anything worthwhile to say, so go away and play, please!!!!!!
On 22 Sep 2013 at 11:53am An inconvenient truth wrote:
These so called scientists have been fiddling the figures for years. The ones that support their NWO masters are rewarded with "grants".Those that don't are ostracised.The sheeple does as theyre told,. That's how they control everyone.
On 22 Sep 2013 at 6:37pm Gruntfuttock wrote:
A proper scientist at the Royal Academy said recently that we only have one planet earth on which to conduct the mega experiment of pumping billions of tonnes of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and then wait to see what happens. Food for thought!
On 22 Sep 2013 at 6:38pm clarkson who? wrote:
Since the report has not yet been published, it is clear that clarkson above is talking rubbish.
Why not wait, read it and then take an considered opinion rather than repeating vested interests?
Also the funding spent by the IPCC is minute considering the potential risk for the planet and our children - the scientists work for free . I wish people like clarkson would try to be responsible rather than just spouting murdoch rubbish.
On 23 Sep 2013 at 12:28am dan wrote:
totaly agree with mr clarckson, it has been proved that where we live was once tropicil rain forests, ie coal,Also aparently we have had 7 ice ages.The planet is always evolving and changing, we might add to to the changes but it will change anyway. another govt tax rip-off!
On 23 Sep 2013 at 1:13am gary wrote:
Yes we have been tropicil in the past.Look athe coal and the terradactils.
It wasn'so bad. They didnt have any houses then.Now we have more bricks and roofes.I like dinsaurus anyhow.Its just acon.The arth is only made by a god in 5 days.Why worry?
On 23 Sep 2013 at 10:14am queequeg wrote:
As soon as the word denier was used, of one side of the argument by the other, it became impossible to have a rational argument. I don't think it is possible to deny that a greater amount of CO2 will mean a greater amount of heat captured by the atmosphere. Where it is possible to disagree is with the resultant effect on climate. For instance the ability of the Earth to self regulate may have been underestimated since it is impossible to quantify.
It is possible to argue that yes there was some degree of warming leading up to 1998 but that since then other factors have come into play, perhaps as a result. Only now is it beginning to be more clear that the issue has been over simplified.
I would tend to agree that it is too soon for the government to destroy our industrial base (which simply switches the CO2 production to somewhere else) and load us with the most expensive energy policy in the World on the basis of what has so far been experienced of global warming.
Since it hasn't been possible to claim "global warming" for the past 15 years we now have the phrase "climate change". But even there there is no evidence as we are living through a period of several years now when fewer tropical storms are making landfall in the USA.
All in all I think it is time to reopen the debate in a less hysterical fashion.
On 23 Sep 2013 at 1:50pm Dingo. wrote:
Lets wait till Friday when the report will be released.before we make accusations of "hysteria ".My own guess is that the report will recommend immediate and far ranging action. If you want to describe this as" hysterical" then so be it.
On 23 Sep 2013 at 2:25pm Deelite 2 wrote:
"For instance the ability of the Earth to self regulate may have been underestimated since it is impossible to quantify"
And it may have been overestimated. A good body of scientific thought thinks that that the earth's systems are maintained in a fine balance and, if pushed too far out of kilter, a critical threshold or tipping point will reached resulting in a feedback loop, beyond which environmental changes will be rapid and unpredictable.
Balancing an increase in the cost of power against the desertification of our planet and possible extinction of most (if not all) life on it seems like a no-brainer to me. Better to be safer than sorry. Lets be safe and cut fossil fuels while we find out more until we can be certain of the effect we are having on the climate.
On 24 Sep 2013 at 12:56pm Knoxon Cutts wrote:
Frack off's link sets off so many thoughts about the amount of spin generated by this controversy.The thing is that big business funds both sides of the debate.As an example,the Rockefeller Fund supports the anti tar sands protestors,why,business rivalry,who knows? They also support the UN,in fact they were hugely influential in forming the organisation.Personally I'm an opponent of fracking but I'm not convinced that warming is necessarily man made.One thing i'm sure of is that carbon taxes will not cure it whatever is causing it.
On 24 Sep 2013 at 1:10pm Jeremy Clarkson wrote:
Can I just say that "my" name has been hijacked and the Jeremy Clarkson who started this post isn't he that has taken a slightly cynical view of the frracking issue around here recently and also the way the subject has dominated this forum for too long. Personally I do believe humans are the cause of global warming (its impossible not to) - I just resent the "all or nothing" approach by some eco extremists lurking here.
PS "Clarksons an Idiot" - yes I do have kids and your attitude of "you can't be a good parent if you're not 100% anti-fracking" is typical of the views that turn so many off from the points you're trying to make.
On 24 Sep 2013 at 1:54pm Jeremy Clarkson wrote:
I don't know who the previous poster claiming to be Jeremy Clarkson is. I am the real Jeremy Clarkson.I suspect he is some hippie eco fascist trying confuse everyone.Just ignore him.There is nothing these loonies won't stoop to.
On 24 Sep 2013 at 1:59pm Lester wrote:
Theres a secret government facility run by the NWO in area 14 turning out Jeremy Claksons.Don't be fooled.