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Brits In Spain feel Brexit danger.

On 2 Jun 2016 at 12:58am Costas del Brexit. wrote:

400.000 British expats could lose the right to live and work in Spain in the event of a Brexit vote, the country�s Prime Minister has suggested.More than 400,000 British citizens live and work in Spain, in comparison to 100,000 Spanish citizens who live and work in the United Kingdom.Mariano Rajoy said �it would be very negative for British citizens� if Britain were to leave the EU, because they would no longer be able to move freely around Europe.Access to healthcare, the value of pensions and the right to study overseas are among the fears British citizens abroad harbour,
One of the risks of a Brexit is that Britons could no longer assume they have the right to live, work and own property in the EU.
If British citizens are still permitted to retire in an EU state, they may find their pensions affected.
At present, anyone who retires within the European Economic Area, has their state pension increased every year under the �triple-lock� system. This means that pensions rise by the higher of wage or price inflation, subject to a minimum of 2.5pc.
However, in the event of a vote for Brexit, the UK would have to negotiate individual reciprocal agreements with EU countries if annual state pension increases for expats were to continue.
If new agreements guaranteeing state pension uprating were not made, this could lead to a reduction of up to �50,000 over the next 20 years.

On 2 Jun 2016 at 2:16am Sussex Dim wrote:

So what if we have to negotiate new terms for pensions?
I see that as an opportunity for privatisation, our leading financial institutes can add even more riches to their bursting coffers when Boris signs off tax funded overseas pension management contracts. I expect they'll do the decent thing and channel it all through hidden BVI accounts, so they can take the taxes the pensioners would otherwise be paying too. If they're really smart they could also charge the pensioners a management fee, and realise three income streams. Now that's smart business.
The trouble with you remainers is your selfishness in not letting the wealthiest citizens of UK have more of your money, you'd rather see it wasted on free education and mowing the verges on council estates.

On 2 Jun 2016 at 8:55am Celine wrote:

I think if you choose to live in another country you do need to accept that your status may change in the future.

On 2 Jun 2016 at 12:59pm Slarty wrote:

Vienna Convention of 1969 says that the termination of a treaty "does not affect any right, obligation or legal situation of the parties created through the execution of the treaty prior to its termination.�
The House of Commons Library says that "withdrawing from a treaty releases the parties from any future obligations to each other, but does not affect any rights or obligations acquired under it before withdrawal."
The Schengen area represents a territory where the free movement of persons is guaranteed. The signatory states to the agreement have abolished all internal borders in lieu of a single external border. Schengen is NOTHING to do with EU.

On 2 Jun 2016 at 3:09pm brexit soon wrote:

Once we have throne all the foreigners out we give their houses to the ex pats

On 2 Jun 2016 at 6:11pm Resilewes wrote:

You do realise that "ex pats" ARE foreigners/immigrants? If we swapped out all the spanish ex-pats/foreigners/immigrants here with all the english ex-pats/foreigners/immigrants over in Spain, we'd have a bigger housing crisis than now.

On 2 Jun 2016 at 7:19pm Clifford wrote:

I am an ex-pat; YOU are an immigrant. Funny really, isn't it?

On 3 Jun 2016 at 10:10am Resilewes wrote:

Exactly Clifford. The term "ex-pat" is surely just a made up differentiator for people from "wealthy" countries going to live in another country. Anyone else, particularly if English isn't their first language, is deemed an "immigrant". Its pretentious superiority-complex xenophobia at best, racist at worst. Pathetic either way.