On 27 Jul 2016 at 6:59pm Fairmeadow wrote:
The latest YouGov poll says that 3 million people who voted Labour in 2015 would vote for a Tory party led by Thersa May rather than Labour led by Jeremy Corbyn.
That is about a third of 2015 Labour voters. I might be one of them - I certainly wouldn't vote for Corbyn. If spread evenly across the country, and with our present electoral system, that would leave Corbyn-Labour behind the SNP in the race for the honour of being the official opposition. The SNP would have only half the number of votes (they got a lot fewer than Farage's UKIP), but they have them well distributed for a first past the post election.
On 27 Jul 2016 at 10:21pm Stat man wrote:
Fairmeadow, do you have any results for how many people would vote for Corbyn over May?
The Labour party is so convinced that it need to move to the middle that it is ignoring 75% of the traditional labour party.. Corbyn knows that he represents labour, and the sooner the upperclass toffs in the Labour party understand this, the better. If you fail to support the working class and pay them a decent wage, it results in nationalism.
There are a LOT of angry people out there, and if you don't give them Corbyn you will get Farage. Didn't Brexit teach you anything?
On 28 Jul 2016 at 8:06am Doo wrote:
There's a one eyed yellow idol to the North of Stat man doo. There's a marble snail that lies beneath the Cliff And a broken hearted socialist tends the grave of Mad Jerry Corbyn.
On 28 Jul 2016 at 8:40am Fairmeadow wrote:
The reason for the poll results, with Conservatives 12% clear of Labour, and in the overall lead amongst C2/D/E voters, is that the traditional party voters can see in their everyday lives that Jeremy Corbyn has no sensible views, plans or policies to help them. Instead he is focused, as to be fair he always has been, on a narrow agenda that appeals only to the champagne socialists and trots who now make up the Labour Party membership, who care nothing for the real issues that matter to ordinary working people. Like, for example, the excessive in-migration without matching infrastructure provision such as houses, schools, transport and NHS capacity, that is great for fat cats and employers, but leaves them without access to decent jobs, housing, schools, doctors, etc. Momentum is just the Militant Tendency reborn.
On 28 Jul 2016 at 11:08am JMMM wrote:
Who really trusts the polls?
On 28 Jul 2016 at 1:35pm Ed Can Do wrote:
Given that YouGov are more colloquially known as "What do you want it to say, Gov?" amongst their customers, I wouldn't get too excited about anything they say. Sad though that the vast swathes of people who felt disenfranchised enough about politics to vote Leave are still being completely disregarded. Corbyn will walk the leadership contest no matter what the polls say and those in the Labour party still hankering after being essentially Conservatives with a different logo need to accept that the Labour party is back to being a socialist party again now and go elsewhere.
On 28 Jul 2016 at 1:38pm JMMM wrote:
Corbyn will walk it, as long as he isn't disenfranchised by the Law Lords this afternoon. On reflection, perhaps it will be in their interests (assuming they are Tories) to let him stand to continue the schism in the Labour Party!
On 29 Jul 2016 at 12:03pm JMMM wrote:
Glad to see Corbyn's not been disenfranchised but I'm not sure why we have to wait until the end of September.
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