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Why we need guards on our trains

On 28 Feb 2017 at 4:09pm Passenger wrote:
With this sort of yobbish behaviour becoming more and more common, this is yet another good reason to keep guards on our trains.

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On 28 Feb 2017 at 4:14pm Feline wrote:
Not sure what one guard could do with that lot.
On 28 Feb 2017 at 4:25pm Hmm hmm wrote:
Don't be fooled by the title "Guard" they are not security.
On 28 Feb 2017 at 6:00pm Sussex Jim wrote:
A year or two ago I went on a steam excursion; and for practical reasons got off at Redhill, in the evening. As the ticket office was closed I sought out the "guard" sitting in his box to pay the fare to Lewes. His response was "not collecting fares this time of night, mate"
I do not think that the guards, or "on board supervisors" will have the inclination to stop any yobbish or drunken behavior on our trains.What we need is perhaps a Police presence. Or, a few good men that are able to put yobs in their place.
On 28 Feb 2017 at 6:16pm Passenger wrote:
I am sure that the presence of a guard on a train does a lot to discourage this kind. behaviour.a few years ago I was on an evening train returning to Lewes with a bunch of very rowdy,abusive and drunk football supporters,The guard made his presence known and threatened to have the Police come onto the train and arrest the lot of them,mentioning the fact that they had all been filmed on CCTV.They soon quietened down.
On 28 Feb 2017 at 6:17pm mark2 wrote:
Guards are a mark of civilised society. And yes, in my experience they do guard. At the least they are there to raise the alarm; I have seen guards summon police to an approaching station and arrange to have the train stop there when normally it was not scheduled to. This whole affair has been escalated by the government in order kill off the unions. Despicable. No concern at all for the commuters who have endured hell. It's politicised many as to the need for union intervention in this rabid greedy world our politicians have cultivated. They have no care at all for the dignity and needs of ordinary people.
On 28 Feb 2017 at 7:03pm Clifford wrote:
Quite right, mark2. It is worrying to see the Conservatives of all parties trying to destroy all the elements of what you call 'civilised society' - guards on trains, public libraries... I suppose it's what comes of a crzed band of neo-liberals fanatics seizing the party in 1975 and refusing ever to let go. Conservatives, much as I disagreed with them, were at least trying to conserve something.
On 28 Feb 2017 at 9:06pm Milton wrote:
Yes Clifford, the story of the coup that took over the Conservative party in 1975 is not that well known. What became known as Thatcherism was not devised by anyone of Anglo- Saxon heritage.
On 28 Feb 2017 at 9:33pm Old guard wrote:
Trains will be driverless soon. It is the future
On 28 Feb 2017 at 10:00pm The Greek wrote:
Don't think that the likes of GTR will pass the savings of not having a guard on to us either...
On 1 Mar 2017 at 6:35am Ghost of Maggie wrote:
Just rejoice and be thankful
On 1 Mar 2017 at 3:42pm ar10642 wrote:
There are still traditional guards on the Seaford branch and the local stoppers on the West Coastway line (any train operated by 3 carriage class 313 trains) and the diesel class 171 trains on the Uckfield and Ashford lines.
All other Southern branded trains have had the traditional guard replaced by an OBS, which is pretty much the same except they don't close the doors. The agreement between ASLEF and GTR is that there will be a second person on every train except in certain exceptional cases, where before the train would just be cancelled.
Thameslink continue to have no second person on board, as they have done for nearly 30 years without incident.
The best thing is, if the RMT throw their toys out of the pram again, the trains mostly keep running. Great news for passengers.

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