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When does outdoors become indoors?

On 17 Dec 2020 at 4:45pm Nick wrote:
Noticed that some pubs are becoming ever more inventive with their outdoor seating arrangements. Surely 4 walls and a roof = indoors?
On 17 Dec 2020 at 10:54pm Local99 wrote:
Or stupid.
On 17 Dec 2020 at 11:01pm Basil wrote:
What keeps society going is inventiveness. 'Ooo, we'd best do what we're told or the Big Man will hit us' is what holds civilisation back.
On 17 Dec 2020 at 11:22pm IDM wrote:
It's defined in the smoking Act/ Regulations and referred to in the SIs. It's very complicated, depending on whether an opening can be closed (not whether it is closed at the time) and the dimensions of the opening compared to total horizontal length of the walls. It has struck me that some bus shelters are probably "indoors".
On 19 Dec 2020 at 11:22am Tom Pain wrote:
When the clock strikes thirteen.
On 20 Dec 2020 at 11:59am janet street preacher wrote:
What are SIs please?
On 20 Dec 2020 at 3:00pm IDM wrote:
See Goodnews3 11-24 pm 19 Dec
On 20 Dec 2020 at 3:03pm IDM wrote:
At this rate, TP, I can see one of us consigning the other to Room 101.
On 20 Dec 2020 at 11:03pm Tom Pain wrote:
Oh boy DIM, I bet you know where my children go to school and you're going to make me an offer I can't refuse next. As a c Ovid 1984 fanatic I'm sure you like the idea of being O'Brien. When you're next skipping down the High St. rhapsodising over TomPaine perhaps you might think seriously about the rights of man as an actual thing not just a buzz word to bandy around and wonder if travel restrictions and lockdowns fit in with your professed beliefs.
On 20 Dec 2020 at 11:23pm Tom Pain wrote:
Moving on to local topics, I noticed the new development by Malling rec.today. Having witnessed two Lewes floods, the idea of building on the flood plain seems inadvisable. The sight of the Ouse in spate is truly scarey and if you haven't seen it you can't imagine it. Real visceral fear.
On 21 Dec 2020 at 6:09pm Basil wrote:
Tom Pain wrote: 'Having witnessed two Lewes floods, the idea of building on the flood plain seems inadvisable.'

As we've been saying since the unlamented Charles Style was trying it on over a decade ago, but who listens. Remember his parties in North Street attended, by among others, the then chair of the planning committee?
On 21 Dec 2020 at 7:59pm Nevillman wrote:
I'm not sure a fear can be real and visceral at the same time Tom. I'm sure IDM will tell us. I don't know what they are planning for the malling development but I really don't see the problem with building on a small bit of the flood plain. The Ouse flood plain is vast, going from barcombe mills almost to Newhaven and really surprisingly wide. Any development just has to have a defence slightly higher than the earth works on the banks of the Ouse and the whole Ouse valley will flood first. You can also have the ground floor for parking only so no houses get flooded and people move their cars to higher ground.
If its just new development you object to then say so.
On 22 Dec 2020 at 2:02pm Tom Pain wrote:
The idea behind this post was to air a subject conducive to general discussion rather than the usual backbiting personal comments. Where did I suggest that I was against development per se? I was referring to the development by Malling rec. to be more precise on Southdowns Rd. I hadn't been that way in ages and it caught my eye.
On 22 Dec 2020 at 5:10pm IDM wrote:
I am happy to admit that I do not know what "visceral" means. I could look it up, but that would be cheating. When I moved to Lewes my (second) ex-wife noticed that we were in a flood plain and ensured we bought somewhere 15 feet above the Winterbourne. That saved us in 2020.
On 22 Dec 2020 at 6:53pm Nevillman wrote:
I think one or other of us is getting over sensitive Tom and it may well be me but I didn't intend my post above to be any anything other than a contribution to the general discussion. It was certainly not intended as a back biting personal comment.
I'm sorry you can't tell us if something can be real and visceral at the same time IDM. Does anyone know.
Hopefully I will have something to say before the not very big day but happy Christmas both of you if I don't.
Merry Christmas all of us.
On 22 Dec 2020 at 10:12pm Tom Pain wrote:
Visceral means something felt deep inside. I think your viscera is your guts. When I saw that Fauchi creature saying that things would never be the same and it would be a "new normal" I had a visceral feeling of something very unpleasant coming our way and it wasn't a virus. People don't seem to be aware that when governments pass restrictive laws they are very reluctant to give them up. It's nothing new you can see it throughout history and if there's no push back they get cocky and more repressive. They're power freaks,always have been, the job attracts them. The lockdowns will continue for a long time with plausible excuses and the odd month or two's respite to allay concerns. The nature of power never changes. That Johnson already thinks he's Winston Churchill.
On 28 Dec 2020 at 5:30pm I Say Ding Dong wrote:
Was I alone during November of noticing that some Lewes pubs were serving invisible substantial meals on invisible plates and customers weren't leaving after eating these delicious offerings. All pints appeared to be as regular as always and plainly visible along with shorts, wines and soft drinks. Just love the rules.

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