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What UK democracy?

On 6 Jun 2016 at 7:26pm European Man wrote:

The Conservatives have a majority government with just over a third of the total votes cast. How is that more democratic than the so-called 'dictats' of Brussels? If you would like to see a Tory government in perpetuity, vote Leave on 23 June

On 6 Jun 2016 at 7:38pm Ernie the Urn wrote:

Why don't you move to Brussels if like it so much?

On 6 Jun 2016 at 7:40pm Reality Chech wrote:

The people of the Lewes constituency voted Tory, doesn't matter how much you go on about it

On 6 Jun 2016 at 7:47pm Reality wrote:

It's democratic because people voted them in to government, which bit don't you understand?

On 6 Jun 2016 at 7:52pm European Man wrote:

No, 36 per cent of the people voted them in to government. 64 per cent did not. How is that democracy? My point is, Westminster needs to be reformed properly before we set sail into the sunset on our tod.

On 6 Jun 2016 at 8:27pm Bored wrote:

Same remain troll different name.
Really scraping the barrel now could it be the latest polls giving leave a 5% lead?

On 6 Jun 2016 at 9:16pm European Man wrote:

Same paranoid Brexiteer who assumes anyone who disagrees with them is a troll. As it happens this is the first time I've posted on this subject. Part of me would like you to get your way and then sit back and watch you all eat merde for the next ten years

On 6 Jun 2016 at 9:52pm J wrote:

1) the EU is a political construct, it represents 28 out of 51 countries in Europe which a geographical continent - stop trying to conflate Europe and the EU or are you unable to understand this very simple fact?
2. Why don't you offer an argument based on evidence and reasoning in support of your beloved EU instead of ludicrous scare stories about what you think *could* happen post brexit - the truth is nobody knows as it's in the future. You clearly don't know how to think for yourself if you continue to parrot silly mistruths
3. EU law - �The House of Commons library tried to tot up the numbers in various combinations coming up with an estimate between 15 per cent and 55 per cent.
�But when they looked at figures between 2010 and 2013 the most recent available at the time they calculated a whopping 59 per cent."
These laws cannot be removed, were not voted for by anyone and come handed down from an obtuse EU commission wholly unelected an unaccountable to anyone. This is how the EU works so don't come on here and try and compare our parliamentary democracy to the top down elitist EU because you will quite rightly be ridiculed.
EU law supersedes UK law, two very different law systems - we cannot do anything about it unless we leave.
We should vote to regain the ability to kick out those who truly govern us - it is an absolutely vital component in maintaining a peaceful society and only a leave vote will enable that - we only have to look at the rise of the far right across the EU countries to see how damaging and dangerous taking away peoples democratic rights can be.

On 7 Jun 2016 at 8:22am European Man wrote:

Nah. Not until everybody's vote counts, and not just those of a few floating voters in swing seats in southern England, will there be proper democracy in the UK. Our winner-takes-all system is antiquated and is killing voter participation