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We're going to need a bigger boat !

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On 29 Mar 2015 at 10:41pm PN wrote:
Andrew Neill's chat with La Powell knocked the Bennett horror off its top ’car crash interview’ spot. Labour “plan” to eliminate the deficit within a term but with £1 billion of cuts and one tax rise, the 50P rate ( The mansion tax being hypothecated ),we are short of £70 billion plus.
Andrew Neill kindly allowed the top rate might make money. According to HRMC cutting the top rate to 45p has contributed to revenues. He also endured gibberish about enforcing higher wages so people can pay more tax; sheer wibble.
Osborne plans to bear down hard on welfare,apply austerity where possible, and build on his success with employment and growth. Similar cuts will be difficult for Labour so where do they get the extra tax from?
Not “The rich” The amount of all income tax paid by top earners has have paid has risen from 25% of the nation’s tax bill when Labour came to power to 27.3% last year. That’s politics not money .To fill this chasm something nasty must be lurking in the darkness.
Nat Insurance Rise obviously ,cuts in working tax credits probably, hefty Council tax rises certainly and a VAT rise probably.More borrowing certainly,risking a credit crisis and interest rates rocketing; remember the last time that happened?
Letting the spenders back in would be as prudent as swimming off Amity Island when the Mayor says there’s no shark. We're going to need a bigger boat !

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On 29 Mar 2015 at 11:09pm Wibbly Wobbly wrote:
Yet another Chavie Rightwing Website PN has put a link to.. Thanks for that one..
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On 29 Mar 2015 at 11:17pm Cameron`s Hubris wrote:
Bye bye Paul .You won`t be missed.
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On 29 Mar 2015 at 11:29pm Belladonna wrote:
You really are an idiot aren't you Paul. Stop twisting and propagandising. Doesn't sound like the Tories have helped you back to work from your previous posts
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On 29 Mar 2015 at 11:59pm Paul Newman wrote:
I have twisted nothing Labour are yet to announce £70 billion of cuts or taxes .. simple.You understand the difference between facts and opinions right ? This is a fact.
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On 30 Mar 2015 at 12:27am Lewes Lass wrote:
I`ve just watched the interview, and Lucy Powell stands up very well to Andrew Neil`s hectoring and bullying style but being something of a misogynist bully yourself Paul,as your website indicates, I`m hardly surprised you don`t see it that way.Well done Lucy.
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On 30 Mar 2015 at 12:57am skeptical green wrote:
PN. How can something that you are predicting someone else is going to do in the future be a fact not an opinion? Your statement that they must be going to do the things you say is an opinion. However I do agree that the 50p rate is not going to raise much as those who see themselves going over the threshold will take steps to minimise their tax liability unless Labour close a lot of tax loopholes and remove all sorts of allowances. I strongly suspect (an opinion) that both labour and tories parties will be looking at further restrictions and clawbacks on pensions. Personally I think that land taxes might be a way of redistributing wealth whilst stemming the ridiculous house price inflation - make public and housing association owned land exempt and have it rising progressively so that the impact is largely on the upper end of the market. Much fairer than the arbitrary one-off mansion tax proposed by labour and not an unusual form of taxation in disparate political cultures.
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On 30 Mar 2015 at 2:15am Mark wrote:
It doesn't really matter how you reply to him Lewes Lass. Even if another 15 people come on here saying that they thought Lucy Powell had done well he'll just continue to mention the appalling car-crash interview.
A few weeks ago he started mentioning regularly that the UK's record on unemployment is the best in western Europe. I used to argue back that he wasn't comparing like for like as other countries in western Europe have stringent employment laws. Within the next few days he's bound to mention that the UK's record on unemployment is spectacular.
I made similar comments to David Cameron when I was watching the weird, different rooms "debate" and he didn't listen either.
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On 30 Mar 2015 at 7:04am Boris wrote:
Delusional, it's the only way to describe the majority of posters on this forum. They call it a Tory con, they call Paul Newman and his family awful names , yet it seems to me that Paul is the only one on here bringing facts to his arguments.
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On 30 Mar 2015 at 7:05am Paul Newman wrote:

Mark - Lewes Lass is the Troll ( TS troll you might say) .
Its not just me that has remarked on the UK`s employment record it is also the IMF and the OECD. Our employment laws are substantially the same as they have always been and we have our own structural problems ( regional immobility). Neither is it true that that zero hour contracts have grown particularly . A third on them like them , 17% on them are students who need them and they are in total 2.3% of the economy. You might prefer to put these people out of work but I don`t think they would . You are repeating Labour propaganda that has no basis in fact
Skeptical - Closing loopholes is a process not a policy all governments do it and the coalition have tried hard . Labour will do well to equal their record
I agree with you on pensions , the problem is that Labour have already killed the private pension system so there is not a lot there . At the top end it will have “dynamic “ qualities “ like the top rate . So yes I agree with you but there has to be a big tax somewhere , got to be Nat Insurance I think.
I know land tax is a Liberal thing , maybe there is something to it , it strikes me as prodigiously difficult to get right. Interesting idea though

Btw while I would probably vote Conservative I would prefer to vote for the collation if I could , I think the Liberal Party have done some tremendous things
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On 30 Mar 2015 at 7:24am Clifford wrote:
Paul, do you really believe your long and hysterical posts have persuaded even one person to vote Tory? Do you realise you're probably having the opposite effect?
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On 30 Mar 2015 at 7:52am Sussex Jim wrote:
If the posters on this forum are representative of the voting trends in Lewes, it seems that this town will get the government-and the problems- it deserves.
 
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On 30 Mar 2015 at 8:16am Paul Newman wrote:
Clifford - I`m not hysterical, but who knows I like to think a contribute to moving the center a little
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On 30 Mar 2015 at 8:37am Percy Veerence wrote:
Not only is Newman putting off voters from voting Tory, now that he has also ringingly endorsed the Lib Dems we can expect most sensible people to desert them in droves too.I think he is Labour`s secret weapon,the more he reveals his absurd and vile Tory views the more people will alienate.Long may he continue to appall us.
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On 30 Mar 2015 at 8:40am Mark wrote:
You illustrate my point to perfection Mr Newman. Was it a week or so ago that you used that stat about 2% zero hour contracts? I replied agreeing that zero hour contracts were indeed rare but fixed -hour contracts (4, 6, 12) are very common. Almost universal in retail. Doubtless, you'll be trotting out the 2% statistic in a few days and pretending that it proves anything. And I think that you MUST be aware of the changes in employment law that were made mainly by Thatcher. So anti-intellectual and closed-minded.
It must indeed play into the hands of opposition parties in this little pool.
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On 30 Mar 2015 at 9:22am Paul Newman wrote:
Margaret Thatcher addressed the power of the Unions with the backing of the country and no party has since even considered going back to the bad old days of closed shops and Victorian practices. New Labour had every chance and Ed Milliband who was actually bought by the Unions is not suggesting any such thing.
If you have some information showing that there has been a growth in insecure employment please share it .There has certainty been a growth of skilled permanent jobs but new jobs will tend to be more skewed to fragility obviously and there are just a lot of new jobs .
I don`t understand what you want, surely even if what you said was right do you want these people to be unemployed ? The Labour Party are not proposing anything beyond cosmetic change whereas the coalition banned exclusive zero hour contracts .
Besides that the growth we have achieved is what has allowed Public services to avoid real cuts
Yes it has been business friendly, that’s what pays for Nurses. Good thing no?

Troll – Toxic foul-pest though you are I’ll answer that .Yes , now the faddy silly people have gone Green and the left of Labour lot gone to Labour, the Orange book Cleggy remnant of the Liberals Party , is not one I have strong objections to . I agree on Europe with them , disagree somewhat on immigration and cultural questions but they have a valid point of view I respect. I hope to see the coalition renewed
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On 30 Mar 2015 at 6:32pm Sussex Jim wrote:
Paul: Your first two words were the glorious leader who allowed council tenants to become part of our home-owning democracy and buy shares in our public utilities. I applaud you for championing a government that will keep the wolf from the door in the form of another obsolescent socialistic regime.
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On 30 Mar 2015 at 10:51pm Sussex Dim wrote:
Yawn....
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On 1 Apr 2015 at 9:17pm Cameron's Pubis wrote:
scrote UKIP


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