On 8 Nov 2005 at 5:59pm Smiler wrote:
Bonfire didn't seem much bigger or better than any other year this time.
Were there any extras I missed?
On 8 Nov 2005 at 8:32pm mick wrote:
On 8 Nov 2005 at 9:41pm me wrote:
you missed mick having a really Sh*t time which i have too admit was utterly enjoyable for myself and a good few thousand others
On 8 Nov 2005 at 10:23pm northern bigot wrote:
Was it different from any other year? Why should something succesful or popular change? There were 35,000 extra people in the town this year,something must be going right? Over the past 30 years almost every social, political, religious etc organisation has lost members some heavilly. Lewes and its bonfire societies seem to be more popular than ever, how unfortunate for the doom mongers, killjoys and the politically correct. Englands not dead yet!
On 9 Nov 2005 at 9:49am Kelvin wrote:
Thought it was one of the best Fifth's for a long while. The crowd was big but mostly very good natured and entered into the spirit of the occasion, not something that could be said for the crowd of 2 years ago who mostly seemed up for a fight.
I can only speak for the Cliffe, but general consensus was that we had a damn good evening with probably our best all round display ever.
On 9 Nov 2005 at 3:31pm The Reverend wrote:
I wasnt that impressed. Especially as it was mean to be some big anniversary. The only thing different I noticed were the fireworks from the martyrs memorial. I was certainly expecting something alot bigger. And yet again, CSBS win the award for best firework display from me. South St and especially Cliff were extremely poor.
On 9 Nov 2005 at 6:02pm annoyed wrote:
Well the one thrown at me and my boyfriend by some chav was loud i know that.
On 9 Nov 2005 at 6:28pm I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
Did I miss something? ?? ???
On 9 Nov 2005 at 7:24pm Lopster wrote:
Considering it was 400th anniversary of the plot I too was disappointed, apart from (as has been mentioned) CSBS - their display was magnificent - from Landport you can see W LB and SS sites too - only LBBS came any where near close - thanks to CSBS - Nelson was wonderful - more next year please - thanks to ALL Bonfire boys and Girls - the Lewes tradition must go on forever
On 10 Nov 2005 at 9:35pm cbs member wrote:
can you all be in so many places at once? how can you be in one place and comment on all displays? Not all fireworks go 80ft skywards, ground displays play a big part of the night to! I thought Cliffes fireworks were second to none! well done Kelvin,Gavin and Carl etc,etc.
On 11 Nov 2005 at 1:52pm chav wrote:
Yeah. That prozac works well dunnit?
On 11 Nov 2005 at 5:51pm The Tooth Fairy wrote:
You've almost answered your own question cbs, if the others can't be in one place and comment on all the displays then how can you say that the cliffes were 'second to none'. Did you see all the others? Typical cliffe arrogance-'We're soooooooooooooo much better than you lot'
On 11 Nov 2005 at 8:04pm me wrote:
Considering that cliffe is a plc you would have thought it could blow the competition away. But as we see every year there are other firework crews that can match if not beat them. All said and done all credit to all the tab teams.
On 13 Nov 2005 at 7:16pm mick wrote:
Does anyone really care who has got the biggest, loudest one?
It's like being back at school "my dad's bigger than your dad".
GROW UP, you are just children playing mans games.
If you are so keen on blowing things up, do something useful and join the army.
On 13 Nov 2005 at 10:38pm me wrote:
why join the army when i can do it every year on the fifth. The simple fact that it annoys you mick makes it all the more entertaining.
On 14 Nov 2005 at 10:03am T. Catesby wrote:
Not completely sure of the relevance of your argument that as the Cliffe is a limited company, they should be able to blow the competition away. Why? If being a limited company meant you were loaded, why do businesses go to the wall?
The Cliffe have to fundraise the same as all the other societies, there are no special favours or donations, it's just bloody hard work raising money through the year, but a small group of dedicated people.
You know, this board is very strange. There's a lot of anti bonfire and indeed anti Cliffe feeling here (which is fine), but I suspect that most people aren't members of any bonfire society. The reason I say this is that when all the societies are back in the town after the displays and the day after in the pubs, there's no 'we were better than you' type conversations, it's all 'did you have a good night?', 'how'd your fireworks go?' etc etc. There's no gloating, there's no sniping. I look at this through the eyes of someone who works on the displays (Tab) and there is a mini society that includes all the firework teams of all the Societies. We know the hard work that goes in, we know what can go wrong and what can go right. A lot of the time it's a case of 'there but for the grace of God', but one thing is constant, and that's that we would all help each other out at the drop of a hat. And we do.
I guess what I'm trying to say is there seems to be an attitude here that Societies are very much against other Societies, but that couldn't be further from the truth (certainly amongst the firework teams). We all set out for the same reason, to have a damn good night and to celebrate deliverence from the Plot, but I guess if the intrigue of it all keeps you people in the crowd amused, that's fair enough.
Personally, I feel that if you are willing to pay your subs and join a Society and work for it (not many do) then you are more than justified to comment and critisise, whereas if you're just coming out for a cheap evening standing on the pavement watching, feel free to comment and critisise, but your words carry little or no weight.
On 15 Nov 2005 at 4:02pm me wrote:
I appreciate all bonfire societies have to fundraise and i can also aprreciate that it is very hard work, but not all bonfire societies can afford to purchase their own field and employ outside security agencies. I do belong to a bonfire society and i do drink around the local pubs before and after bonfire and i will disagree with you slightly over your claim that their is no sniping etc. because their is. Most of it, agreed is jovial and meant as a joke but in my experience their is also an element of some societies who seem to think that they are superior to all other societies.
For the record I am definately not anti bonfire or anti-cliffe because without the cohesion of the bonfire societies none would exist in its own right.
On 16 Nov 2005 at 12:09pm T. Catesby wrote:
Well, the ability to purchase the firesite was the result of years of fundraising and saving. The ability to employ security is also a result of fundraising and saving. In the modern age, it's a necessity to have adequate security to protect 'stuff' and also to ensure smooth running of the 3500 visitors (public) to the firesite. The security people have professional experience and training that we do not. Any society can work hard at fundraising to boost their bank balance. It's not easy and it's not especially fun at times, but it can be done, as we have demonstrated. I do class firesite admission as fundraising as well.
I must say I have not experienced any sniping or back biting, but as you say there may be a small element and I may not move in those circles. I must say though that as a Cliffe member (and a very proud one) I don't think that we are always the best. There are elements of other societies evenings and workings that I think we could learn from (and are). I do though think we have the best Tableau. And I'll defend that to the hilt.
Bonfire is bonfire, as people are people, so there's always going to be different opinions and views, which is what makes what we do so interesting and enjoyable. Personally I have very good friends in all bar 1 other Lewes society so would like to think I have a balanced view of things. Long may bonfire continue (as it will, We Wunt Be Druv) and long may friendly rivallry and banter continue.
On 18 Nov 2005 at 5:58pm T Percy wrote:
Well said Catesby. We do help each other out such as if we're short on parafin or fusing etc. Of course everyone in bonfire believes they are in the best society otherwise there would only be one - just don't ask me which!
On 18 Nov 2005 at 6:02pm T Percy wrote:
I think Mick should move - miserable old man
On 7 Dec 2005 at 12:45pm Monnie wrote:
this year was great. i am a member of CSBS and travel from trowbridge (nr Bath) to join in the procession. i feel that the town should never loose this tradition! as it is so unique to the place. and it bring the community together which is not often these days. and yes they all have to pull together to make bonfire night what it is.
On 7 Dec 2005 at 3:53pm bonco wrote:
please see clothkis debate still in stock waterloo jumper patterns as they had no members who could read the instructions