On 19 Mar 2017 at 12:49am Oap wrote:
There is a possibillity that the old Turkish baths will be able to be used as a community workshop. That would be a great thing for me as I used to be a cabinet maker and I'd really like to pass on some of what I have learned.
There is an online survey that you can fill in to help it happen.
Check it out here »
On 19 Mar 2017 at 12:55am Belladonna wrote:
There are any number of possible uses for the Old Turkish baths. However the survey specifically is trying to get people to vote for a maker space. Personally I'd like a Turkish bath there.
On 19 Mar 2017 at 8:17am vic wrote:
There has been an extensive thread on this already. I think that it was fairly conclusive that a maker's space was not an option. LDC should quite properly be seeking to extract as much financial benefit as possible from any community asset not indulging a minority pressure group. There have always been proud independent craftsmen in this town who don't look for free rent. I
wonder if the members of the 'makerocracy' would be happy to pay market rental.....their sense of entitlement is quite extraordinary in these times of 'austerity' with social care at breaking point, no housing stability and food banks proliferating.
On 19 Mar 2017 at 9:21am Oap wrote:
I don't have the money or room these days to have my own workshop but my grandchildren have seen some of my work and nothing wouldn't be me more pleasure than to see them making their own pieces.
I heard that LDC were considering it as a real possibility.
You sound like you have something against craftsment and what is a makerocracy please?
On 19 Mar 2017 at 10:32am Generational Resident wrote:
Poor Oap yet another Arty/ farty in this town who expects the real Lewes Residents to give them properties for peppercorn rents, have'nt you had enough money out of the other peoples pockets !!
On 19 Mar 2017 at 10:41am RLH wrote:
Cllr Carter and the Greens at it again, it's a about time the Green Councillors
started to attend the Council Meetings look at Cllr Bolt on the Town Council only attended 2 out of 8 full Council meetings and will not stand down because she does not want to cause extra costs.But they come out of there holes when they want something for nothing.
On 19 Mar 2017 at 12:43pm HRH wrote:
Put a bolt on it RLH, and get some spelling
On 19 Mar 2017 at 12:44pm lewes resident wrote:
I want my Council Tax to be spent on necessary things like Adult Social Care , showing youngsters how to make Cabinets is not a necessity .
On 19 Mar 2017 at 1:55pm Jennifer wrote:
How is anything like a "makers space" on a site like this going to fund market-level business rates? We moved here three years ago, and it was not quite as the estate agent described: but in all that time one of the most horrific experiences my husband and I shared was visiting that building last year and seeing the space dreadfully underused by some event about making things. This is a prime piece of land in a premium town! If the existing outdated building and site were sold off for demolition and development, you could put two or more floors of high quality retail chains in there, with existing working business plans, or maybe a good estate agent that would do well so close to the railway station. Then money could come in properly to the council for dealing with Lewes's real problems like building safer roads and clearing away the beggars who still annoy people every day.
On 19 Mar 2017 at 4:17pm Good Ole Days wrote:
Poor quality trolling post jennifer. You are losing your touch.
On 19 Mar 2017 at 5:53pm mike wrote:
Oh dear, the community asset grabbers do seem to be getting a mite desperate. First the customary (yawn) petition, but then a self serving survey. Here online they are seemingly pushing their entitlement through the invented? persona of OAP, the deriding of another poster's typo, and finally through Jennifer's apparently singularly lame attempt at trolling - shooting herself in the foot more like. it is clear that public property assets belong to everyone not just a self appointed and self entitled elite.
On 19 Mar 2017 at 8:21pm Poor effort wrote:
Yep that was a bad one Jennifer. Shame. You sound like anette curtain twitcher. That's really not a good place to be.
Not getting why this baths is so hotly contested. Please someone explain
On 19 Mar 2017 at 11:20pm Clifford wrote:
Who isn't sick of the children of the middle class asking for their 'live-work' units to keep them comfortable until Mummy and Daddy pass on their inheritance?
On 20 Mar 2017 at 12:04am Maker wrote:
We are not talking about live work units or anyone getting a free space to run a business in. We are talking about a shared community asset which could benefit a lot more people than just those who use it.
You really should try and understand what you moan about as not doing so tends to make you seem a bit dim
On 20 Mar 2017 at 12:30am x; wrote:
Crack den, anyone?
On 20 Mar 2017 at 5:50am Fat sweaty turk wrote:
I vote for a turkish bath
On 20 Mar 2017 at 9:13am Ed Can Do wrote:
Given that both the town council precept and the "Lewes Special Expenses" (Thanks Ruth O'Keefe) have increased dramatically on this year's council tax, I'd suggest that any town councillor wanting to use the space for anything other than raising as much money as possible is doing their constituents a great disservice.
On 20 Mar 2017 at 9:20am mike wrote:
I see that 'maker' - such a strange pretentious term - is now reduced to insults in order to get their way. Why on earth would anyone wanting to reasonably utilise a publicly owned asset to help ease the artificially imposed 'austerity' by the Conservative government be considered 'dim'. There are food banks in Lewes, young lewes families have no secure housing, and old people live in fear and neglect because of the savage cuts in social care.
And here is 'maker' insisting that LDC hand over The Turkish Baths to fund
their pet hobby horse. It beggars belief and shows a complete ignorance of what is happening in society outside of what seem to be a rather selfish insularity.
And by the way for the sake of linguistic accuracy ' moaning ' is not the description of a process that is putting forward a perfectly reasonable case .
On 20 Mar 2017 at 9:36am Local maker wrote:
On 20 Mar 2017 at 10:11am Hannibal wrote:
How long have the Turkish Baths been empty/ underused? Are they listed?
It's not a great location for a maker space as it is too near housing so noise and loading would probably be an issue beyond hobby type work. I do like the idea of non professional workshops though but
getting government involved is a very bad idea. Keep it as a club, that way you have much more freedom of operation. Their must be some farm buildings that could be rented for this purpose near Lewes.
Silly to turn it into another hippies versus rich dfls issue.
On 20 Mar 2017 at 6:29pm Practical wrote:
How about no? Why must we have to endure all these stupid "workspaces"for "creatives" that never pay their way, unlike the decent but struggling shops in the town? I'm fed up of seeing pointless shops selling almost nothing, save for maybe a ball of string and an expensive dress.
On 20 Mar 2017 at 8:05pm bell weather wrote:
Practical, I think I hear the tide turning. There is a litany: Lewes New School, Pelham House (local valuers apparently still reel at the low amount that was sold for), the St Anne's site, a bequeathed 4.5 acres (plus the manse) ESCC
sale fortunately aborted, and now available for much needed social housing, Phoenix Rising's also aborted noisy land grab from LDC. And now this, an assumption that a coterie of 'makers' deserve the Turkish baths also a
publicly owned asset. it appears that 'maker' believes that the wider community excluded from its use will still 'benefit' from the sprinkled confetti of their 'makership' magic. My head reels at this sense of entitlement and ignorance of the common good. Practical, certainly we do not have to endure
this. But we do have to be vigilant and turn a deaf ear and a sharp eye to slick noisy public persuasion stridency.
Coldly, all this nonsense has come at a significant public cost and caused real upheaval for residents of this town. It has to stop - along with the shops run by the ladies and gents who lunch. There is nowhere for ordinary families to shop on the present incarnation of our high street. And how sad is that.
On 21 Mar 2017 at 6:43am Bell Ender wrote:
Say again in English
On 21 Mar 2017 at 1:03pm First Aider wrote:
OAP, you should take a look at the community workshop at the Hillcrest Centre in Newhaven. They could undoubtedly use your skills and keep them current.
On 21 Mar 2017 at 1:18pm Ed Can Do wrote:
Also, OAP, if you want to pass on your carpentry skills to the next generation, why not join a bonfire society and help out with the tab building? Some of the most creative and talented people of several generations in Lewes spend hours and hours in workshops from September to November building and painting the amazing effigies that are processed through the town on Bonfire Night. Southover make one too! The spaces are there, the younger generation are there and keen to learn, the facilities these "makers" are so keen to have already exist all over town, there's certainly no need to waste valuable, public property on another one.
On 21 Mar 2017 at 4:47pm Belladonna wrote:
Let's be clear. I want this to remain an asset for the local community. But I don't think a maker space will serve the whole community, just a few self interested people. For a start it's just not big enough.
On 22 Mar 2017 at 3:15pm Oap wrote:
I would like a community workshop in Lewes why should I have to go to Newhaven.
The Turkish bath building is plenty big enough for a workshop. I went in there last year.