On 24 Jan 2018 at 11:26am Burggs wrote:
I never tip for services I receive.
I don't understand the concept of tipping.
If a waitor/waitress brings me my food in a restaurant, then they're doing their job for which they receive a wage. If I get my hair cut, then the Hairdresser is doing their job for which they receive a wage. If I get a taxi, I pay for my fayre, which is how the driver receives a wage. If I order a takeaway the delivery person is paid out of the money I have spent on my order. Why on earth should I tip all of these people on top of already paying for the services provided? People tell me a tip is supposed to be 10% of what I've already paid, but why? Why am I expected to go round tipping all these people when I myself never receive tips for the work I do even though I am providing a service to the public?
I have found myself in awkward situations upon paying for drinks/food ordered in cafes, pubs and restaurants, when friends say "shall we split the tip?" and I tell them I don't agree with tips. Likewise, every time I pay my hairdresser the exact amount and don't tip, she looks at me like a child who's just had their lollipop snatched off of them. I've had taxi drivers stare at the money I've handed over when I give the exact amount of the fayre, with no tip.
It actually annoys me that all these people expect tips from me when I'm not earning any more than they are.
On 24 Jan 2018 at 11:32am Guy wrote:
So when you go out for dinner you let your friends leave the tip and you don't? Surprised you have any friends to go out to dinner with!
On 24 Jan 2018 at 11:44am Bob wrote:
Burggs, you aint wrong!
On 24 Jan 2018 at 11:46am Pedro wrote:
Tipping is a combination of rewarding above adequate service, as well as subsidising low wages. Tipping customs in the UK is fairly casual though, and even just 5-10% is more or less appreciated. Meanwhile, in the USA, tipping is almost mandatory by comparison and often beyond double what it is here in the UK....and expected in a lot more types of service based roles than would be here. Going to bars/pubs just for a drink or two, and you palpably feel more obligated to tip....just for pouring even one drink (or opening up a bottle of beer!). You rarely get that in the UK, unless its some sort of posh hotel or wine bar where no matter how little you order, you get a receipt in a leader-bound book on a plate implying "cough up". (where as that seems to be the case irrespective of the standard of the establishment in the US).
On 24 Jan 2018 at 11:56am Deja Vu wrote:
You probably do tip if you go to a restaurant, it's called a "service charge" and is already included in the bill in the majority of restaurants (I don't recall any in Lewes that don't add it, apologies to any that don't if I'm wrong).
But most normal people appreciate it's hard underpaid work and would leave an additional tip for good service.
On 24 Jan 2018 at 11:59am 3% wrote:
Y'all know where that % goes.
On 24 Jan 2018 at 1:37pm '80s boy wrote:
Burggs - don't be such a tight-wad your whole life. Lighten up with a little generosity.
If you ever do go to the USA and don't tip in a bar, the barstaff will chase you down the road. Tips are all the wages they get.
On 24 Jan 2018 at 2:30pm Tom wrote:
I agree with Burggs. Why should I substitute their low pay so that the owner can take more home?
On 24 Jan 2018 at 2:44pm Deja Vu wrote:
So you'd rather just pay more instead... Great logic Tom.
On 24 Jan 2018 at 2:53pm Tom wrote:
I'd rather the owners paid their staff fairly then making them rely on their tips. I'm not against tipping for good service but I'm against employers relying on tips to make their staffs wages satisfactory
On 24 Jan 2018 at 3:07pm Bob wrote:
Taxi drivers, Hairdressers etc are mostly self employed (are they not?).
My hairdresser can afford to only work 4 days a week - he doesn't need tips or maybe that is how he affords to have so much time off?
On 24 Jan 2018 at 3:09pm Somebody has to pay wrote:
More workers doing a full time job for a pay packet that doesn't support them. Who should pay to top them? The customers through tips? Tax payers through benefits?
Or maybe employers through wages!
I hope those against tips are equally as loud appealing for increased minimum wage. Maybe even that living wage thing that has already been calculated. All we need now is a government willing to make businesses pay it.
On 24 Jan 2018 at 7:17pm No service wrote:
I never tip if service is added (in a restaurant) but I really hate the thought that the the worker doesn't get it. Could you refuse to pay the service on the basis that they don't give it to the workers then slip the money to them discretely? Would they restaurant have it?! I think not but it might be worth a try one day!
On 24 Jan 2018 at 8:55pm Boom wrote:
I used to work as a waitress. I never expected tips but was so chuffed when I did get one as it meant my customers had enjoyed their meal out. Most waitresses are paid minimum wage regardless of how they serve you. They can choose whether to provide a bad, mediocre or amazing service. If they can’t be bothered, they will still get paid for doing the job whether or not they ruin your night. I think the same applies to hairdressers and taxi drivers. I will always provide a tip where due but I have refused as well, even when the ‘gratuity’ has been included in the bill as it is ALWAYS optional. If you get bad service don’t tip, if you do then give what you feel is due. You might make someone’s day.
On 24 Jan 2018 at 10:23pm Customer wrote:
I hate restaurants like Food For Friends in Brighton that add 10% to your bill, which is a optional service charge but they do not tell you. Then you leave a tip, in effect paying twice for services. You pay for the meal, and then you pay towards the staffs wage bill, while the owner pays minimum wage at the same time making maximum profit. Like I go to buy a suit, and the price is £400, then I am expected to pay £40 towards the wages of the member of staff that served me? Really?
On 24 Jan 2018 at 10:51pm Tip wrote:
How about, you pay the bill if the customer service is 100%, the food is 100%, and your whole customer experience is 100%, if it is not you get a 100% discount? Why are people on here going on about what the tip laws are in the US, this is the Lewes Forum, not the US forum.
On 25 Jan 2018 at 9:33am Squeeze every penny wrote:
I hate tipping. You wouldn't tip bin men or shop assistants or bus drivers so why tip waiters? It's just an excuse for the bosses to pay workers less.