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The truth about the homeless

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On 6 Jan 2018 at 11:59am Tough Love wrote:
Most of the homeless folk if Lewes aren't homeless. They choose to live on the street so they don't have to adhere to rules of no drugs and alcohol as well as curfews.
By helping these people with pennies and makeshift shelters it is supporting there toxic lifestyle and ensuring they don't improve their life.
I have spoken to some of these homeless people and those trying g to really help them and feel that tough love is needed.
Many of them have rooms or homes but choose not to stay in them preventing the organisations from passing them onto to people who really need them them and will use them.
Persisting with a toxic lifestyle is damaging not only to themselves but to those around them too.
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 1:01pm K wrote:
What’s your evidence for this?
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 1:28pm Pedro wrote:
@ K - it looks to be anecdotes and bias, with a dash of untruths to sex up the dossier.
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 2:41pm Mark wrote:
@tough love. Please xplain to us what the causes of this phenomenon are. There were no street homeless in Lewes ten years ago. Back then a royal wedding could be held in Windsor without local officials having to scratch their heads over how to deal with the issue of rough sleepers and begging. Why has their been this explosion in the last ten years. Drugs aren't new. Cheap cider isn't new. Things that are new are benefit sanctions, a freeze on housing benefits, decimation of council services that used to be in place to support the vulnerable. I think that this explanation makes a bit more sense then the idea of a whole mass of people deciding to leave their homes and head out there to discover a new lifestyle.
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 4:59pm Many homes wrote:
Just been to Uckfield high Street. No beggars, no homeless.
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 5:12pm Tim wrote:
Is there a survey of which towns and cities have beggars and which don't?
It seems expedient to go where there is a population with excess resources.
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 5:21pm Tough Love wrote:
My post is based on what the people who deal with the homeless people in Lewes have told me. What police officers have told me and a few of the people themselves have said.
I have me theories of why homelessness is increasing but that isn't the issue here.
These people have places and aren't using them.
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 6:58pm Thegardener wrote:
@mark, ten years ago Lewes wasn’t awash with wealthy DFL yummy mummies therefore the rich pickings were elsewhere.
The wasters in Lewes would vanish overnight if people would stop giving them money.
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 7:13pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I'd like to know who these people "who deal with the homeless people in Lewes" are, Tough Love.
As one of those who works with the homeless, I know it to be untrue in most cases.
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 8:28pm Jack wrote:
There are not homless it a job And you lot keep giving them bloody money . So they can go on the piss or buy drugs open your eyes they do spit shift around the town
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 9:40pm Mark wrote:
And Tough love has an alternative explanation for why it's all happening now but... errm... He's not going to share it.
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 10:03pm Leftie wrote:
Under Tory governments homelessness goes up. Under Labour governments homelessness goes down.
please explain this.
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 10:14pm Gaurdian wrote:
Article in gaurdian today captures this whole debate perfectly. " You don't have to be poor to be hooked on drugs or alcohol but it helps."
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 10:52pm Closed borders wrote:
Limited housing, mass immigration.
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On 6 Jan 2018 at 11:04pm K wrote:
You're not allowed to have an opinion if you can't spell.
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On 7 Jan 2018 at 12:33am Neat wrote:
Various political factors but also fewer jobs for unskilled, relatively uneducated or those with personality and appearance challenges. If you are ugly and a bit thick like me it's hard to get a job, thats why I am self employed!
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On 7 Jan 2018 at 6:37pm jack wrote:
they have a jobs .its Called begging of the silly sods that give then money..( can I just point out that begging is illegal under the 1824 act.
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On 8 Jan 2018 at 11:12am Tom wrote:
The guy who sits outside the post office and sometimes down by the train station is genuinely homeless however I believe. Further more, I've never seen him ask anyone for anything. The other night he was asleep outside Moonsoon or whatever it is called these days (Jigsaw maybe?). Nor have I ever seen him on drink or drugs (I live in the centre of town and walk past him at least once a day). Whilst I agree with you on the majority of the others (as I've stated in many other threads) I would not want this guy to be tarnished with the same brush.
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On 8 Jan 2018 at 11:16am The Greek wrote:
Evidence?
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On 8 Jan 2018 at 12:27pm Nick wrote:
Article in Sunday Times yesterday regarding homeless on streets in Windsor. They found that by 10 o'clock at night all bar 3 had gone home, with one taking a taxi!
So, there are the genuine homeless but there are also a lot of spongers. I guess its the same in Lewes.
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On 9 Jan 2018 at 1:17pm Homeless Man wrote:
Tough Love, how dare you insult my way of life. This has been a tough time for me and my family, struggling daily to have enough food and water to survive. YOU ARE KILLING US BY DOING THIS! Give us free food.
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On 16 Jan 2018 at 7:09pm What am I reading wrote:
Why are the majority of people on this site twats?


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