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The big one.

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On 24 Apr 2013 at 8:02pm Rookie wrote:
After an amazing fightback last night to draw 2-2, the Rooks final game of the season is this Saturday. A win will ensure safety from relegation. 3pm at the Pan. KIDS GO FREE.
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On 24 Apr 2013 at 10:32pm havenrook wrote:
Looking forward to the lap of dishonour at the end from the worst squad of footballers seen at the pan for many a year.
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On 24 Apr 2013 at 10:59pm Neville Scroat wrote:
I stopped going to the Pan a few months after that appalling bunch of pretentious nouveau-middle-class wannabes took over my beloved club. And now look where we've ended up. Shame on you.
Nice posters guys. But please, just go away and let some people that actually know how to run a football club take over.
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On 24 Apr 2013 at 11:19pm Fan wrote:
Interesting comment that, Neville. Obviously you're not from the Nevill.
I take it you would prefer to be going to watch a now-non-existent Club, as nobody else was going to keep it afloat after conventional ownership had failed so spectacularly...
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On 25 Apr 2013 at 1:07am Rookie wrote:
Absolutely correct Fan. Neville Scroat shows ignorance of the situation so whether Lewes was ever his beloved club is questionable.
That "appalling bunch of pretentious nouveau-middle-class wannabes" actually saved the club from vanishing forever. No-one else wanted to take over the reins. Or the debts left over from private ownership.
So it was either them or oblivion. I think I prefer them.
If Neville Scroat was in any concerned about his "beloved club" he would have become an owner and voted "that appalling bunch of pretentious nouveau-middle-class wannabes" out. He would also have known that directors can only be in position for 2 years before having to relinquish their position. So all the "appalling bunch of pretentious nouveau-middle-class wannabes" are now not running the show.
 
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On 25 Apr 2013 at 10:59am Neville Scroat wrote:
Of course we don't blame you for standing up for them, poor Rookie.
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On 25 Apr 2013 at 11:02am Fan wrote:
Just in case he bothers to read up and get the full story, I'd better make two quick corrections Rookie. Directors stand for three years, and thankfully there is still one brilliant-minded Rooks125 founding Director still in place. But everything else was spot on!
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On 25 Apr 2013 at 11:09am Rookie wrote:
3 years? OK. Being wrong about that just shows that I'm not a club official as some people think.
But I was nowhere near as wrong as poor Neville Scroat was.
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On 25 Apr 2013 at 3:46pm Fan wrote:
Absolutely right!
 
 
On 25 Apr 2013 at 4:39pm mickyboy wrote:
john prescott famously gave a swift right hander to an egg thrower, as a polititian getting egged is an occupational hazard, as an egg thrower getting a slap is also one too. instant justice and a good news item. as to footie players the current 10 match ban for L S bitting an opponant is about right, however as he cant do the job for which he is employed, I hope he looses 10 weeks wages as well
 
 
On 25 Apr 2013 at 5:27pm uckersbarry wrote:
roll on the big one when they tell you your new manager is robbo good bye worms
 
 
On 25 Apr 2013 at 7:59pm Rookie wrote:
Could be worse. Robbo might well make a good manager. He's getting to the age where he needs to start looking around for something else.
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On 25 Apr 2013 at 8:23pm Freefall wrote:
There is much to admire about the continued survival of Lewes FC after near extinction.
However the reality is that a modern football club can only be successful at any kind of decent level if the owners are willing to write off some serious debt each season. Sad but true.
The budget that has been made available to the Lewes FC management the past few seasons is eclipsed by many teams in lower divisions, which sadly is where I believe Lewes will end up.
Given that only a few years ago they were playing in English footballs 5th tier it would seem the club is in freefall under its current set up. Community ownership is a fantastic idea but only if thousands and thousands are willing to contribute.
Look at virtually all pro & semi pro clubs & spending more than their income is the norm, this is completely wrong but it is the way of modern football.
So one has to question why anyone would wish to take on a Directorship of a club unless they had serious money to burn, i'm sure it is often with good intentions but is it also perhaps sometimes to often to help massage an overactive ego.
I personally am just happy to see Lewes FC still in business, and i suspect many loyal fans would rather be watching the club win the county league watching local players play against other local teams rather than struggling to survive in leagues that sadly they just can't expect to compete in at present
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On 25 Apr 2013 at 9:38pm Fan wrote:
Life in tier 5 was unsustainable; it's not "freefall" to drop two tiers to a realistic level. I feel tier 7 or 8 will be LFC's home for the foreseeable future, whilst plenty of other Clubs will soar and fall like we did thanks to owners who can afford to torch some cash for a few years.
 
 
On 25 Apr 2013 at 10:09pm @LStacey wrote:
Hi, I'm an appalling pretentious nouveau-middle-class wannabe.
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On 25 Apr 2013 at 10:28pm Rookie wrote:
Well, we are safe at tier 7 for another season as Hastings have just lost. They can't catch us now.
Getting to tier 5 is all fine and dandy if you have the finances to at least make an effort to stay there. We didn't have that, and as Fan says, it was unsustainable.
Lewes should just trundle along now without the boom and bust cycles we see at lots of other clubs. How long before Whitehawks backers get fed up shelling out £10k every week while taking barely £1k through the turnstile every other week? I hope it doesn't happen but history suggests it will. Now that could result in freefall......
 
 
On 26 Apr 2013 at 2:40pm Money Man wrote:
Hi Rookie, it's the bottom 3 teams to be relegated right? Going to be close...
Personally speaking I'm thinking of becoming a member next season, but would like a few quid knocked off the entrance fee on production of the membership card -
ie. next season the card is £30, entrance £11 normally but say, £8 for members. So you go to 10 games then start saving money. I'm sure attendances would rise. Teams usually play better in front of larger support etc. etc.
There's got to be more benefits than saving 5 percent on a pint in The Gardeners and a trip to the opticians...
 
 
On 26 Apr 2013 at 4:34pm Rookie wrote:
No. Bottom two go down. Barring 0-8 scorelines tomorrow Lewes are safe. Bottom 4 go down next season though so we need to improve.
The card is a no brainer for anyone who uses the traders in the scheme. I also like the idea of reduced entrance. Maybe if enough owners contact the board it might be considered. Who knows?
 
 
On 27 Apr 2013 at 10:57am Ed Can Do wrote:
Lewes could not exist in the 5th tier when they got there. As soon as you move out of the local leagues into the nationals, away games suddenly become a vastly more expensive prospect and with most (All?) of the team having day jobs, a Tuesday night trip to Yorkshire or further has a real impact on the player's lives. I think the directors had exactly the right idea when they re-launched the club, consolidate their position and reach a point where the club is sustainable financially in the long term before any moves are made to get promoted. Part of this is building regular support and part of it is jogging on the players who for some insane reason were on contracts under the old regime and replacing them with pay-per-play youngsters.

Whilst the club may not be competing at the dizzy heights it was a few years back, it is no longer in danger of disappearing completely and the current leadership, for all their pretentious nouveau middle class ways, are a much better bet than a dodgy builder and dodgier accountant running the whole thing as a way to swerve tax in their other businesses (Allegedly).
 
 
On 27 Apr 2013 at 11:13am rookie wrote:
What totally amazed me was the tax bill that built up. How did that happen when one of the senior directors was a supposedly top accountant?
Never again.
 
 
On 27 Apr 2013 at 11:15am Ed Can Do wrote:
You should see some of the VAT returns they submitted...


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