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The Swan Roundabout

On 14 Nov 2016 at 1:40pm Resident wrote:
How long until a serious accident occurs here?
You have school run mums and dads crossing the road on a blind bend.
Cars coming from the C7 and The Hollow at the speed of light and that have little intention of slowing down and definitely no intention of stopping!
I just saw a near miss as a car coming along Southover Highstreet was already committed to the roundabout and a Chelsea Tractor coming up from the Hollow didn't even slow down.
Surely some traffic calming measures need to be installed here?
On 14 Nov 2016 at 2:01pm Dixie Normus wrote:
Yes agreed it is bad there, also people sat there looking at each other not knowing who goes doesn't help. BUT the worst bit of the road going is the Falmer exit on the A27. Only a matter of time until someone gets killed there. Especially match days at the stadium some of the driving there is rather special.
On 14 Nov 2016 at 2:11pm sleepingpoliceman wrote:
no crashes in last 15 years is probably why...seems to operate safely statistically
On 14 Nov 2016 at 4:18pm Dick Dastardly wrote:
The Falmer slip road onto the A27 Lewes bound is really dangerous. If you know the road then you wait to make sure there is a space or wait to be flashed by a considerate driver but I have seen people who clearly don't know the road just presume that they can go into a lane.
There is a limited view of vehicles coming off the slip road and the bus stop there seems a bit odd/dangerous.
On 14 Nov 2016 at 4:43pm Driver wrote:
How to join the A27 eastbound at Falmer. You accelerate down the slope by the Swan onto the slip road. Using your mirror on your right door or wing, you gauge the speed and position of traffic. You accelerate, indicate right, and pull out; or ease up momentarily and then indicate and slot into a gap.
I have never had any problems there, when joining from the Woodingdean road. What you must not expect is for traffic on the major road to move into the outside lane for you: they may be a commercial doing 50 while cars are passing them at 70.
On 14 Nov 2016 at 4:56pm Dixie Normus wrote:
In particular I mean the people that go along the 'middle lane' then try to cut in and sometimes actually at a stop, then the cars going too fast and/or not paying attention in that lane who then swerve dangerously to avoid going in to the back of the stationary car and there is nothing you can do if you are in the fast lane apart from BRAKE and hope you don 't kill the occupants of any of the surrounding vehicles including the usual white van man or BMW driver tail gating you.
On 14 Nov 2016 at 6:15pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Again, the problem isn't the road, it's the drivers.
It's very rare for a road to be dangerous. The danger is caused by people not driving appropriately according to the conditions.

On 14 Nov 2016 at 7:19pm Wotcha wrote:
This started as a discussion of traffic conditions near the Swan at Falmer and then moved on to the Swan at Falmer. Does anyone else share my view that the road past the Swan at Chailey is particularly dangerous?
On 14 Nov 2016 at 7:22pm Wotcha wrote:
I meant the Swan at Southover, of course.
On 14 Nov 2016 at 7:35pm DFL wrote:
Only if you're an idiot - not paying attention/going to fast/can't work out who's got right of way (delete as applicable). To concur, it's drivers that make Swan roundabout dangerous, although conversely I would agree that Falmer slip road on to A27 is really scary if you're not familiar with it
On 15 Nov 2016 at 11:26am Ed Can Do wrote:
According to crashmap there have only been four minor accidents on the roundabout by the Swan in seventeen years, one in 2005, another in 2007 and two in 2008 so it's hardly an accident black spot. In the same time period there have been nine accidents at the lights by the prison and nine at the Nevill Road/Spital Road/De Montfort Road junction so those would probably take priority if there was any desire in government to improve junction safety locally.

There's not been many at the Swan in Falmer either, although it's hard to see from the map exactly which side of the road the accidents occured.

Despite some people's obvious concerns, there aren't any really dangerous junctions round here, you just need to drive safely and sensibly and you'll be fine.

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On 15 Nov 2016 at 2:56pm Slarty wrote:
Roundabouts are considered a traffic calming measure. There is one already outside the Swan (in Southover). Job has already been done.
On 15 Nov 2016 at 7:32pm SHS wrote:
Maybe we need a roundabout on the roundabout to calm the roundabout then. We need skilled drivers not signs, humps and flashing lights.
On 15 Nov 2016 at 11:00pm A Person wrote:
And some safe crossings for pedestrians. Crossing to the Swan is horrible because of the bend in the road (if I'm driving I'll stop to allow people to cross safely). It is supposed to 20mph here, but very few actually slow down.

I looked at the map Ed, and there seems to have been a serious accident on that bend just a few months ago - one of only a few graded "serious" in Lewes. So my perception of it, which is that it isn't safe, would seem to be justified. It's one of those junctions which appears completely benign except for around three hours at the beginning and end of the day.

We need skilled and patient drivers, and perhaps someone enforcing some rules occasionally....

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