On 14 May 2011 at 10:41pm Boris wrote:
I would advise every single person who put a cross next to a Green party candidate here in Lewes last week to watch carefully with regards to what happens in Brighton in the coming years.
Just one week in, at a time when all local authorities are strapped for cash and the first thing that the greens promise the good people of Brighton is more travellers sites. Brilliant.
I would also advise Brightonians to start saving now for next years massive council tax hike . Good luck your going to need it.
On 15 May 2011 at 12:21am Brightonian wrote:
People in Brighton are getting impatient for the Council to make some progress in finding more sites for travellers. The current situation - with just the Horsdean site available - is leading to intolerable short-term occupations of public parks. SOMETHING needs to be done. The Greens are now planning to do something. Good luck to them. I'm sure 'the good people of Brighton' will benefit. More permanent sites must be cheaper for the Council to administer than the chaotic cat and mouse chasing around the city that we've seen over the past few years.
On 15 May 2011 at 9:41am realist wrote:
They should see an influx of travellers with their plans for new sites.
Lets hope that they take the cost out of the benefits that they claim; somehow I don't think so!
I don't know about the pink label that Brighton has but the great unwashed will soon change that.
The Green Party? Yes in many ways they are!!
On 15 May 2011 at 9:54am Paul Newman wrote:
Damn right . To quote George ( the moonbat) Montbiot we judge politicians by what they do not what they say. Ignore the big give away web site with its £120 billion of spending promises.We know they want to squat on the the recently vacated " Cake-and-eat-it"plot whilst the Lib Dems are off governing .
One of your Green Councillors is Richard Rudkin who I have not forgiven for writing that Australia has multi Party diversity under AV which he knows perfectly well is a crock of wombat do.Still, he may not be the worst Green candidate ....
On 15 May 2011 at 12:12pm MC wrote:
I advise anyone who put a cross against a conservative candidate to keep an eye on stealthy privatisation of health service, one way flow of wealth to the already wealthy, destruction of integrated state education, increasing unemployment, faltering economy... Oh yes, and continuation of the banking crisis (as they've failed to take any decent measures to accommodate it).
Ooh look, I can make predictions too. Let's see how the Greens do before inventing their story. And if you want make predictions let's give it two years and see which of our predictions ends up being closer to the truth.
On 15 May 2011 at 12:22pm Clifford wrote:
And of course MC, 'anyone who put a cross against a Lib Dem candidate'. Don't forget they're up to their eyeballs in it (they voted for the NHS Reform Bill at 2nd Reading). I suppose the difference is we expect this from the Tories - the Lib Dems pretended they were different.
On 15 May 2011 at 2:28pm Paul Newman wrote:
Don`t forget the progressive elements of New Labour Clifford who were also introducing competition to Europe`s largest employer ( The NHS).
We can expect laighs a-plenty from a Green Party who support tarrifs , regional migration policy, a "New World Order " and " Direct Action. They support both fair trade and air miles costing which will impoverish black farmers. Endless crack pot schemes, like taxing the poor to subsidise wealthy poseurs to have electric cars and enrich Toyota . Frankly I cannot take them seriously enough to bother.
Like this fine upstanding member though ..thats new ...
On 15 May 2011 at 2:37pm Paul Newman wrote:
Webbo where does my link keep going ?
Oh well do google 'Green Party candidate exposed as £50 per hour escort.' its a story of everyday Brighton life arf arf. ... Surprised in a way that rational Lewes is so Green.They are very anti science. Oppose embryo research, oppose GM crops research, fund alternative medicine, won`t have Nuclear power etc. all on the basis of some magical hippy dippy thinking.
Oh yes, just the people to be in charge of "defence " lets say . ha ha ha ha !!
On 15 May 2011 at 3:26pm giveitarest wrote:
It conveniently suits the small-minded ignorance of halfwits like Boris and Newman to believe that Brighton is full of crazy leftie hippies and that's the only reason the Green Party got in.
That's not how it is. I used to live in Brighton and the Green Party have been steadily increasing their presence on the council over the last ten or fifteen years. I'm no particular supporter of Green Party policies but if you ask Brightonians who have had dealings with their local politicians over recent years they will tell you that by-and-large, they are simply far more useful and helpful. There are Brighton conservatives who have had family members on the council for generations, and they have become staggeringly complacent, arrogant and self-serving. My own experience is that if you contacted local Tory or Labour councillors to discuss an issue you would be lucky to get a reply. If you did, it would be some idiot whitewash telling you that whatever the problem is, it's out of their hands. Whereas Green councillors reply immediately, promise to look into matters, do just that, then follow it up. They're presence on the Council has increased because of word-of-mouth popularity.
If you want to know why Brighton Conservatives lost, you could also Google 'Hove cycle lane'. The previous Tory administration attempted to spend £2.1m on the removal of a cycle lane which had been paid for by Government grant. As well as the ridiculous cost, they'd have had to pay the grant back. They way they went about this was undemocratic and - some said - reeked of corruption. And this at a time of austerity, simply to support the principle that motorists are more important. Unsurprisingly, they were widely derided and were thrown out at the next electoral opportunity.
On 15 May 2011 at 5:06pm Clifford wrote:
Paul Newman wrote: 'Don`t forget the progressive elements of New Labour Clifford who were also introducing competition to Europe`s largest employer ( The NHS).'
I hope you don't imagine I'm a Labour supporter. All three parties are capitalist parties and obey their masters' voice.
On 15 May 2011 at 5:11pm Paul Newman wrote:
You say GIAR, but I habitually ignore and discount any view expressed anonymously in undigested slabs of 'post literary' web-ese.
The suggestion that Greens are thrifty is at odds with their published manifesto. Increased state pension, scrapping tuition fees, free school meals for all, free eye tests ( hey why not just chuck it all in), free dental, free social care for all,no job cuts in the Public sector ,min wage up ...etc.Free free free ...its brilliant .
The Greens are a minority administration and it is interesting that the Labour Party refused to be associated with them. I daresay they know all to well how this would look in the rest of the country as one quixotic idea after another gets the sort of coverage once reserved for Enver Hodge and her loopy left Islington council.
I suppose a new Party may get a bit of fresh talent. Fine, its nothing personal, its just that they wrong foolish and incoherent as a Political Party.
One reason they have done well in Brighton is that they are surprisingly well funded and have spent as fortune at the GE there.
On 15 May 2011 at 6:18pm heducated wrote:
Nuffink wrong wiv the green party....I'm not a racist it's a lovely colour.
As for that bike track in Pinkland there is a £1,000,000 lawsuit claim pending for injuries created by the halfwitted scheme of a track and that is why the Tories felt it would be cheaper to remove it in the long run.
Check out your facts givitarest.
On 15 May 2011 at 6:43pm MC wrote:
We've has the same old Tory/Labour rubbish for far too long and it's just not getting us very far at all.
Of course the Greens will make mistakes. They are bound to be naive, but they have some good principles and most of all, they have imagination, something that'd been entirely lacking from both the stagnated major parties for decades.
I'm going to give the Greens a very, very big chance. God knows we need things to change. All the other parties ever do is talk about change. They never deliver anything new. They are dead.
On 15 May 2011 at 7:40pm Brightonian wrote:
Quote from Paul Newman - google 'Green Party candidate exposed as £50 per hour escort.'
Is this Dave Walsh, who came SEVENTH in the poll, behind the UKIP candidate?
On 15 May 2011 at 7:57pm Paul Newman wrote:
Mr. Walsh came seventh ?
Sounds like quite a Party
On 16 May 2011 at 1:38pm Brixtonbelle wrote:
Good advice from Paul Newman regarding the majority of his posts, vis,
"habitually ignore and discount any view expressed...in undigested slabs of 'post literary' web-ese...."
I will happily take your advice on this one Paul and ignore all your rambling tedious right wing drivel forthwith. It's the best and most sensible thing you've ever said on this forum.
On 16 May 2011 at 2:02pm MC wrote:
On 16 May 2011 at 2:13pm Pedant wrote:
It's 'hear, hear' - as many posters have said before.
On 16 May 2011 at 2:52pm Paul Newman wrote:
Yes pedant its meaning is something like ,"hear what this clever fellow is saying "
Sorry to see you so cross BB, I shall attempt Hemingway-esque ,terse ,right wing drivel in the future .
On 22 May 2011 at 4:08pm bracelet,pandora wrote: