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The Calm before the Storm

On 26 Aug 2018 at 11:20pm Auto Phil wrote:
People are quite laid back over Brexit, because the effects have not been felt in a material way.Maybe not enough Brits go on foreign holidays to see the deterioration in the value of the £ but even if they do, they rationalise by thinking that they can take the hit for a fortnight every year.The concept of Brexit is abstract until and/or unless a nasty shock occurs which affects a large number of people in a concentrated area of the country.No sign of anything like this happening yet.Still people were enjoying their picnics in the nations parks on the bank holiday before the outbreak of world war 1 oblivious to the dark clouds gathering.
On 26 Aug 2018 at 11:29pm Grendel wrote:
You are just an elitist liberals who wants to deny the Proud English Nation the unlimited free beer of the Brexit Heaven.
But you Remoaners lost. The people have spoken and they want that free beer.
On 26 Aug 2018 at 11:30pm Clifford wrote:
But not once, Auto Phil, have you referred to what you think will be the effect of Brexit. You've just blown up the usual smokescreen of 'I want to stay in the EU therefore leaving it is a bad thing.' As you know, a majority took a different view when - at last - we were asked out opinion. It's interesting too that when President Macron was asked he said he thought the French would probably vote to leave. So they won't be give the chance. There is a shared interest throughout the capitalist establishment that they should be able to contine to screw the working class Europe-wide.
On 27 Aug 2018 at 2:05am one wrote:
It will be so much better when Jacob ‘Social Justice for All’ Rees Mogg and Boris ‘Champion of the Working Classes’ Johnson get the opportunity to save us all from Capitalism.
TBF I reckon the French probably would be better off Frexiting, they don’t have a much much worse government who will only ever do what tax dodging offshore business owners want for an inevitable alternative.
On 27 Aug 2018 at 8:42am The Major. wrote:
On 27 Aug 2018 at 8:53am Bottom line wrote:
After Brexit the majority of people will be poorer. Food prices in particular will rise. Business output and confidence will fall so unemployment will rise and people in employment will not get pay increases. The economic multiplier will exacerbate this effect. There is nothing undemocratic about the electorate having another vote once we know the terms of leaving the EU.
On 27 Aug 2018 at 9:04am @bottom line wrote:
Will there be fire and brimstone with locusts and zombies too?
On 27 Aug 2018 at 9:54am Beowulf wrote:
I'm very disappointed with Grendel's attempt at satire.
On 27 Aug 2018 at 11:42am Bottom line wrote:
No there won't be fire and brimstone but most people will be poorer. The actual amount poorer will vary between individuals and a few will no doubt profit. Don't say you haven't been warned.
On 27 Aug 2018 at 3:57pm Be calmed wrote:
The elite will always be alright, it's the rest of us who'll suffer. I nearly voted Brexit as I viewed the EU as an undemocratic supranational organisation increasingly out of touch with ordinary people, however on balance I thought it best to stick with it and hope we could change it from the inside - rather than risk ending up the basket-case banana-republic we're inevitably heading for.
On 27 Aug 2018 at 10:04pm Real world wrote:
The EU is a flawed concept. Look at there lack of accountability and the way the bend their own rules without any recourse against them. The UK is just the first to exit.
On 27 Aug 2018 at 10:06pm Clifford wrote:
'People will be poorer'? As if most people haven't become poorer since 2008 and the austerity policies of those supporters of the EU Cameron, Osborne and Clegg. Have none of these Remainers noticed that the ordinary people in the EU have also become poorer thanks to their austerity policies? Why do they think Polish and other East European workers were coming here to work in minimum wage jobs? Because they like the weather?
On 28 Aug 2018 at 1:08am one wrote:
Clifford, these are the very people you prefer running the country. They are what you voted for. You voted for the government that listens to Murdoch, you voted against the one that doesn’t.
You voted for them to pull out of the HRC, so they can bully you harder than they have done since they unleashed the GFC.
They preferred Remain because the European market is actually more valuable to them than the growth they can strip from forcing higher productivity out of a diminishing market and limited workforce.
Your best of the bad lot, and everyone else’s, was Remain. Don’t be under any illusion about who’s going to be punished for the Brexit treachery, who’s going to take the financial hit of the losses they experience. Boris Johnson and his fellow hedge fund owners are going to make you pay for the fallout of his career strategy. You.
And us.

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