On 17 Oct 2015 at 1:07pm Sneaky Rat wrote:
Compact video intro to TPP, which is one of three similar trade agreements in the works, including TISA and TTIP, the latter being the one that will include Europe. I can't help feeling that corporations have become frustrated with relying on influencing politicians and the media to control the unruly people of the planet and want more direct control. These agreements are a very big step in that direction and would leave us maybe one step away from corporate dictatorship. Absurd? Don't bet on it.
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On 17 Oct 2015 at 3:17pm Grafter wrote:
It is very important but I think everyone who is awake has heard of it. The problem is it is too technically demanding for most people and there isn't a straight party dichotomy for or against. It demonstrates how owned "our" politicians are. People tend to organize at the wrong scale,either too big or too small when the way to gain power is to focus only on service to influential patrons.
On 17 Oct 2015 at 3:30pm trooper wrote:
@Sneaky Rat. With respect, you appear to have missed the point, this medium is called the"Lewes Forum" not the International Trade Forum.Your point is taken in regards to the overall picture, so what are you asking us to do????
I notice that the presentation is American, in whose interests are they speaking, I somewhat doubt it is ours, after all it was they who invented corporate dictatorship, so why are they now complaining.
On 17 Oct 2015 at 3:44pm Ben wrote:
It's impossible for the layman to comprehend
On 17 Oct 2015 at 3:45pm Sneaky Rat wrote:
@trooper with the greatest of respect..
If you don't mind waking up in a totalitarian regime that's your business. As far as it being the 'Lewes Forum' I think that the effects of TTP, TTIP or TISA even reaches Lewes and beyond.
Who made you the mouth piece for Lewes anyway & don't you think it presumptive of you?
On 17 Oct 2015 at 4:30pm Mark wrote:
It is indeed hugely important and, I find most people don't have a clue about it. Cameron said in a speech in Washington last year that he hoped "to put a rocket booster" under Ttip. He was remarkably quiet about it all through the election. The implications are horrific once you start looking into them.
On 17 Oct 2015 at 5:13pm Sneaky Rat wrote:
Do you trust anything these politicians say?
I'm finding it very difficult, with Dave Cameron's bullsh!t & his slimy corrupt perverts profiteering from the less fortunate and forever using the tactics of dehumanising and vilifying the working poor. Trust them? I don't think so..
Then there's Jeremy Corbyn who seems to be straight talking and compassionate with his views. I know which one I'd trust.
The question of TTIP, CETA, TISA and the EU all being negotiated on our behalf in secret makes me feel extremely nervous to say the least!
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On 17 Oct 2015 at 6:30pm Mark wrote:
Mr Trooper, yes it's an American production but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is promoting a homogeneous agenda that originates in the USA. A certain amount of Americans are anti-capitalism, anti-multinational corporate profiteering.
On 17 Oct 2015 at 8:45pm wrote:
Sorry for the inconvenience. I'm trying to save the World..
0oh yer.. I suppose that means Lewes too..
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On 17 Oct 2015 at 9:15pm Tipex wrote:
Is there ANY chance you 3 could meet in a pub and chat about TTWTF or whatever it is you're on about rather than foist it on us? I know I should strive to be as enlightened as you are to whatever global conspiracy you're going on about and will try to be a better person tomorrow.
On 17 Oct 2015 at 9:28pm wrote:
Simple solution just click on your usual derge!
On 18 Oct 2015 at 6:11am Sussex Dim wrote:
I agree Tipex, I don't understand secret trade deals either, and don't trust people who do, unless they're Tories, who have always fought for the interests of the common man. Therefore, if you're complaining about something I don't understand, you must be a intellectual troublemaker I can dismiss with my humourously aggressive indifference.
I'm proud of my nihilism, and the only people who aren't impressed, are losers.
End of, as we say round here.
On 18 Oct 2015 at 9:20am Grafter wrote:
I think my post has been vindicated by the "quality" of the replies!
On 18 Oct 2015 at 10:52am Mark wrote:
Absolutely Trooper. It's just TTWTF to the majority of the people who will be affected by it.
On 18 Oct 2015 at 10:58am Mark wrote:
Or Grafter, rather.
On 21 Oct 2015 at 9:20am smeerkat wrote:
the suggestion that Tories have always fought for the interests of the common man is surely riseable. We may be concerned over the implications of TTIP but business control over "democratic" government is pretty complete and is extremely adept at pushing its interests as the same of that of the common man. We already have the parliamentary Regulatory Policy Committee in place, very influenced by business interests. Nothing wrong with encouraging profitable business as long as their success benefits the society it operates in. Really the ineffectiveness of any political party to establish fair tax collection from big companies probably proves we are run by unelected businesses rather than politicians. TTIP is another bit of that evidence.