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On 23 Apr 2008 at 2:20pm Pennypincher wrote:
I'm going to have a grizzle and I apologise,but the shop in Leicester Road is constantly making unintentional mistakes when giving me change.
I have learned to ask for a receipt and I have to keep going back in the shop to query my change.
A couple of weeks back it was an overcharge of 2.00.When I went back,the owner said he was sorry but he included the last persons purchase by mistake.Then I used my debit card and for some reason there was a 4 overcharge which caused problems and I had to produce my bank statement to sort it.Yesterday I bought 2 items that were advertised at 'buy 1,get 1 free.I was charged twice at the checkout.When I queried it,he said the offer finished last week.That's 3 overcharges in 2 weeks,and I go in there most days.
I know that I could go elsewhere,but I don't see why I should.
The shop has a wide range of goods and I think it is a great little shop,but of course,being the only one that ever gets overcharged,i don't need to warn you to always ask for a receipt.And I am sure it is always a genuine mistake on their part.I am always pleasant,never get iffy,but he was definately cheesed off with me last night,Rant over.
On 23 Apr 2008 at 2:27pm Taff wrote:
Thanks for the info PP. I have my newspapers delivered by them and have no axe to grind but I will study my bill a little closer after this.
On 23 Apr 2008 at 2:31pm Pennypincher wrote:
Thanks for your support Taff.I feel a bit about that post,coz I know they have a lappy.Hope they don't see this,coz he will know it is me.But I felt it had to be said.
On 23 Apr 2008 at 9:27pm Big T wrote:
I must agree with PP that anyone who uses this shop to check their change as I have been done 4 times, twice I got my money and and twice I did not. The two times I did not get my money back, totalled eight pounds. My partner has also been caught by this, so this is not an isolated incident. Is there anybody else out there who has had the same problem
On 23 Apr 2008 at 10:17pm Earl of Lewes wrote:
I've been short-changed a few times, but having worked in a shop I know how easy it is to do. Raj and his staff are constantly juggling so many balls in the air that they're bound to make the odd mistake.

Overall I think they are an excellent shop and really know the local market, catering for a broad spectrum of customers, which is probably why they've won awards.

I've noticed that the number of errors has gone down since the new till system was introduced, so this minor problem (99% of my purchases are fine) should disappear.

On 23 Apr 2008 at 11:17pm PP wrote:
I agree EOL,Raj knows his market,is a very good shopkeeper...Have they really won awards?
But I disagree about the new till system.That is what caused my problem with the 4 overcharge,the 2 overcharge and the 2 for 1 problem yesterday....When the new till system was installed I jokingly said,'No more overcharging then Raj eh'.To which he replied 'No,this system is foolproof'.Yeah,right...
I think the new system is as bad as the old one.I was constantly overcharged for 6 months,and have had the same problems since the new tills went in.Ask for a receipt like I do,go out of the shop and check it.And go and get your money back like I do.Sorry Raj.
On 26 Apr 2008 at 8:12am black n tan wrote:
they are just robbers wake up to it they have done it for years
On 26 Apr 2008 at 11:02am s.oliver wrote:
it seems to me that the post by 'black and tan' above is inciting racial hatred, and should be removed.
If you believe that this shop has a problem with customer's change, then you should contact Trading Standards.
On 26 Apr 2008 at 11:43am Smiler wrote:
I can't see any mention of race in that post. Enlighten me would you?
On 26 Apr 2008 at 5:26pm PP wrote:
Thanks for the advice S.Oliver.I have just reported them.While I'm at it I may as well report the shop at Wallands.The one on the right hand side.He doesn't take any notice of his special offers either.Was charged full price on a packet of half price soap powder,and overcharged 50p on a single bottle of wine.Both times I didn't realise 'til I got home and could do nothing about it.I wonder if all the shopkeepers are related? I do know that Raj Patels' family members also run the shop at Landport. Doesn't bother me anymore,I always get a receipt,and pull him up when I check it.Just don't like the thought of other folk getting done.
On 26 Apr 2008 at 6:28pm s.oliver wrote:
My pleasure.
If short changing is going on then the people concerned need to be stopped, and either given some friendly advice about managing a till, or some unfriendly advice about theft. There was a time when Bill's was rather unreliable when giving back change, or even a reciept. Tesco's often make mistakes, especially with fruit and vegetables which are wrongly identified at the till.
Whatever the explaination, it is nothing to do with being either 'black or tan' !
On 26 Apr 2008 at 6:29pm FA wrote:
Jesus S.OLIVER...how the f**k can you conclude from that statement that 'black and tan' s post was inciting racial hatred ?
No wonder this country is going down the sh***er with everyone accusing people of being racist etc.
On 26 Apr 2008 at 6:30pm FA wrote:
Black and tan is a drink you pleb
On 26 Apr 2008 at 7:37pm Double Yellow Line wrote:
And I am not chinese honest.
On 26 Apr 2008 at 7:44pm me wrote:
Well said FA!!!!!!! Who is more the rascist? the person who just ignores the childish comments and just gets on with it or the person who is continually feigning offence on behalve of a ...... (insert your own minority group or recently percieved pet group). the latter pretty much continues the stereotype whilst the former will and continues to just adapt which is what these people are so adamant that we should all be. Again i agree %100 FA
On 26 Apr 2008 at 8:28pm Spinster Of This Parish wrote:
It doesn't matter if DYL is Chinese or not - he is still well and truly yellow.
On 26 Apr 2008 at 9:19pm Racist B*****d wrote:
Did you hear about the Rascist B******d who bought an odour-eater?
It ate him.
On 26 Apr 2008 at 9:58pm Double Yellow Line wrote:
Ah Spinster would you like to see the ribbon round my old oak tree?
On 26 Apr 2008 at 10:27pm Racist B******d wrote:
Tom, having just finished his meal at the local Chinese restaurant asked the waiter if he could speak to the chef. The chef arrived at his table and Tom said,"that chicken was f***ing rubbery". The chef replied,"its on the house".
On 26 Apr 2008 at 11:46pm Earl of Lewes wrote:
Well I'm very happy with Raj's shop (although I do check my change if his wife's serving). He gets up at the crack of dawn, works his arse off and has always given me brilliant service.
I'm not Mr PC by any means, but I can't say I like some of the above comments.
On 27 Apr 2008 at 12:14pm s.oliver wrote:
so 'black and tan' was just an unfortunate coincidence, and sweet 'FA' is everyone's favourite football association, not a description of how much intelligence racists have.

On 27 Apr 2008 at 12:18pm FA wrote:
Or how paranoid you are
On 27 Apr 2008 at 12:36pm s.oliver wrote:
Well, I look forward to 'black and tan' telling us how enthusiastic he/she is on multiculturalism, and where his/her favourite asian owned shop is.
'black n tan' will, I am sure, be horrified that they did not realise the unfortunate connection between their name, and the fact that their defamatory comment 'they are robbers, just wake up to it they have done it for years' was about an asian run shop.
I look forward to the clarification from 'black n tan', as I am sure they are horribly embarrassed. The issue is very sensitive in Lewes as there is a rather nasty racist minority that we all know about, and we wouldn't want to encourage them, would we?
On 27 Apr 2008 at 2:39pm Rascist B*******d. wrote:
Apologies for the very bad jokes earlier.Good job Webby keeps his beady eye on the proceedings.I am not rascist,or I don't think I am.I have a strange sense of humour.Sorry folks.
But if the said shops would stop overcharging(and I doubt they will) perhaps we wouldn't make predictable comments.
On 27 Apr 2008 at 3:07pm FA wrote:
I got overcharged (five times) in sussex stationers....does that make me a rascist...especially if i change my user name to...."pint of guinness" or "lager and black"
As for this "nasty rascist minorty" in Lewes,....well i'm yet to see it myself but it is a part of every town or village. Maybe you're closer to the problem then everyone else on here soliver....will you be voting BNP at the next election ?
On 27 Apr 2008 at 4:17pm Spinster Of This Parish wrote:
Old oak tree? It's probably like you and full of worm!
On 27 Apr 2008 at 4:42pm Cupid Stunt wrote:
FA. Either you are too dumb to notice, or can't read. You make excatly the same point as S.Oliver does. Lots of shops in Lewes are not perfect. Instead of whinging on about it S.Oliver has told everyone how they can deal with the problem properly, and even points out like you have that the problem is not unique. Some idiot has made a very nasty little remark (regardless of the username), as 'black n tan'. They are either totally insensitive, strangely ignorant of who runs a shop they claim to use, or are racist. Just because the men in white pointy hats aren't hanging black people from trees in Grange gardens, doesn't mean there isn't racism in Lewes, like most of the rest of the country, as you say. Perhaps you should ask the owners of the shop what their experience is.
Doesn't it worry you, FA, that if this Asian/British family are just making honest mistakes in their small shop, but are being attacked on this website by someone calling themselves 'black n tan' then it might actually be very upsetting for them to read it. Do you know how a smear campaign works?
Guess what, like other people in Lewes, this family might have a computer, and feelings too!
Oh, and by the way the user name is just a very unfortunate coincidence. I am a Kenny Everett fan.
On 27 Apr 2008 at 5:07pm FA wrote:
Black and tan has posted on here before on a totally unrelated subject. His user name was used then and how people can read that his user name is starting a "smear campaign" is totally beyond me.
I know Raj very well after doing my obligitory 2 years "time" in Ousedale...his daughter was born at the same time as mine.
This is the problem we're getting...i think it was mentioned in an earlier post that people are confusing rascist and patriotic. We get so many do-gooders just like soliver and cupid stunt who pick the tiniest bones out of every statement and then play the rascist card....it's very easy to do because there's so many things....like giving yourself a username that is a drink...that can be misinterpreted but there are a few people who will pick up on it and keep plugging the rascist one.
As for Raj having a computer and looking on here, well i doubt anything racist was ever considdered until soliver stuck his sandal wearing, politically correct beak in and suggested it
As for your user name...it's not unfortunate...it's approprate
On 27 Apr 2008 at 5:22pm Lager and Black (the artist formally known as FA) wrote:
About 5 years ago, our local shop in Landport short changed me by 2 pence...robbing swines !!!
Does the changed user name offend anyone or think i'm a rascist.
On 27 Apr 2008 at 6:57pm geoff wrote:
The FA doth protest too much.
On 27 Apr 2008 at 7:11pm FA wrote:
Well that was constructive Geoffrey
On 27 Apr 2008 at 7:52pm Geoff wrote:
I checked and can't find any old 'Black n Tan' posts.
And it's Geoff, thanks.

On 27 Apr 2008 at 9:23pm Enoch wrote:
Noticed on another post that there is a "Mother in Law" on the forum - is that SEXIST & AGEIST or just a drink - Old and Bitter?
On 27 Apr 2008 at 10:02pm S***stirrer wrote:
Gosh,Rascism,sexism and ageism all in one thread.For what it is worth I doubt if Raj would be too upset if he did see the way this conversation has gone.He and his family live in this country and he must surely be prepared for a bit of stick.When I have lived in other countries I have accepted that locals think I am going to act in a certain way because I am British.And they have been right because I have been living in THEIR country.But I do not consider myself as rascist.
On 27 Apr 2008 at 11:06pm Frak wrote:
FA, try and do a bit of research on 'Black n tan' i'm sure it is more than just a drink!
On 27 Apr 2008 at 11:19pm cupid stunt wrote:
its funny how many people don't actually read the posts before sounding off, and then make the most dumb comments.
If you look back at what was originally written, you will see how ridiculous all you 'its political correctness gone mad' folk are.
I can't find any other Black n Tan posts either, (correct me if i am wrong) and regardless of the username, the comment is malicious and defamatory to the shop owners anyway. Do you all think that is OK then?
And by the way, just because you might be so thick- skinned that you wouldn't mind a bit of racist abuse if you lived abroad, doesn't mean everyone else thinks the same thing. My guess is that Stephen Lawrence's mother, for example, might have a different point of view!

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