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Save the Phoenix March this Saturday

On 2 Dec 2015 at 8:00am Janet wrote:
Do we really want a large part of Lewes to end up like the area round Brighton station?
That's what Santon are planning

On 2 Dec 2015 at 8:34am word watcher wrote:
Ah! exactly. 'Protect the Phoenix Community'. This Phoenix march poster has nailed it. That is the aim of the fund raising Phoenix Rising Community Development company.
On 2 Dec 2015 at 10:18am Community wrote:
Janet, I think the comparison is wildly inaccurate, have you actually seen the plans? Does not even come near the Brighton one. There is one comparison though the master plan was developed by URBED a not for profit regeneration consultancy, reminds me of the Phoenix Rising group. Brighton is what you get if nimbies start objecting/interfering. So sorry I won't be marching this Saturday.
On 2 Dec 2015 at 10:31am an observer wrote:
Great post Community. 'Community' as a word seems to cover a multitude of sins.
On 2 Dec 2015 at 1:05pm peace wrote:
Please do try not to be too noisy and disruptive on your protest march. Some of us enjoy our weekends and we don't want your rabble ruining the peace!
On 2 Dec 2015 at 1:23pm Frank Lee wrote:
Look - the Phoenix area is a dangerous eyesore. The hippies with their mucky old sofas left out in the rain and the opportunists in their knackered out vans have done nothing to support the cause for continuing this kind of thing. Stop fighting over one tiny bit of ground and use your creative resourcefulness to find other places. When you set up in those places you knew it was a dangerous old eyesore that would eventually go. New buildings on one small section of Lewes is not going to ruin the creative spirit and historic character of Lewes - Lewes is far deeper than that. Put your placards down as quiet honestly you know that a March down the High Street on a Saturday is going to ultimately make no difference. Group together to find a better place for your positive endeavours and creative energies.
On 2 Dec 2015 at 1:43pm My Dear I don't give a wrote:
damn - I'm gone with the wind.
On 2 Dec 2015 at 2:22pm Local wrote:
I for one will not be there, I 100% support the plans for the development. If a Rusty House can be built that has no benefit to the town. This should be built and will benefit the town. The Phoenix Hippy plan is not viable. If you don't like it, move else where and spread your hippy ideals elsewhere.
On 2 Dec 2015 at 5:12pm Boris wrote:
The thing that drags the New England quater down in Brighton is the social housing areas, and the clientel that comes with it.
Ironically Phoenix rising want this type of housing to be a big part of the project.
On 2 Dec 2015 at 5:18pm amy wrote:
I'm beginning to think that the Phoenix Rising Community Development Company's hip, slick publicity machine has actually been a bit of a PR disaster.
On 2 Dec 2015 at 6:11pm Get real wrote:
I went down Phoenix Place today and it looked pretty dead to me. Gosnells and Wenban Smith are glad to be moving. And I doubt if the car cleaners and car component businesses etc are wanted by Phoenix Rising. I doubt their hippy artists would be happy to live near Cmpass buses starting up at 5:00 am when they've been up all night partying. I agree with others here that everyone running businesses here knew time was running out.
And I really do wonder how Phoenix Rsing proposes to flood defend Corporation Villas while flood waters wash through the bit of the site they want to leave as flood resilient (ie flooded come next serious flood).
I won't be joining this march either.
On 2 Dec 2015 at 6:20pm trooper wrote:
SANTON, Go for it.
On 2 Dec 2015 at 8:24pm Get real wrote:
Just read Phoenix Rising's second flyer put through my door for their demonstration. I assumed they were only marching this Saturday. It says there's a SECOND MARCH on Thursday 10th December to County Hall for the South Downs committee hearing so they'll be doing it all AGAIN.
They must be spending quite a bit of money on these leaflets and it looks like they're getting desperate. And Cafe des Artistes is boarded up so the artists are getting the message.
On 2 Dec 2015 at 8:56pm Withit wrote:
Yes noticed that cafe de artists all boarded up all the leases are expiring in that area and they are being moved on , not surprised . Just surprised the landowners have put up with it that long !
On 2 Dec 2015 at 9:03pm Jeff wrote:
I'll be marching just to support Starfish in its quest to find somewhere else to carry on their project.

It's one of the few remaining youth projects in the town due to a massive cut in Youth Services budgets a couple of years ago, Steve Franklin and others has put their hearts and souls into it for years and the project deserves so much more from our Councils
On 2 Dec 2015 at 10:01pm Withit wrote:
Jeff , see my response to Starfish on the other thread on the march re Starfish , why have they not spoken to the landowners ?
On 2 Dec 2015 at 11:01pm Hipster wrote:
The Phoenix rabble must all be recovering from another party, this thread all very anti the 'rising'
On 3 Dec 2015 at 3:12am Starfish youth music wrote:
To Withit. Yes Twice.
On 3 Dec 2015 at 6:27am Withit wrote:
Starfish , really ! not sure you have in the last few months try again or talk to the council , I understand they are keen to find you a long term home - I would try again what have you got to loose other than everything
On 3 Dec 2015 at 1:00pm Belladonna wrote:
Surely starfish could be found a home at All Saints? Or the new depot cinema ? Or the proposed development at the Pan ?
On 3 Dec 2015 at 1:21pm Withit wrote:
Agree Belladonna we all love starfish and would love then to find a pernant home , but they need to engage and not be under false hopes that Phoenix risings ideas will happen - they can't - Starfish talk to the council regen team
On 3 Dec 2015 at 2:02pm Starfish friend wrote:
Belladonna and Withit: Starfish Youth Music used to, but no longer, receives funding or grants from any source so has to generate its own income from hiring out rehearsal and recording space, PA and lighting hire and from subscriptions from the many children and young people that attend the project. Your suggestions are similar to those from SANTON, and equally show a misunderstanding of how the project works and the rather specialist accommodation it requires in order to exist. The directors of Starfish have of course been hard at work negotiating with SANTON about the situation, and much hard work behind the scenes has been going on for a very long time on this issue.
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