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Rude cyclist - The return

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On 8 May 2013 at 3:21pm Pedestrian wrote:
Breathtaking stupidity spotted today at the bottle neck.
Queue of cars at a red light.
Oncoming traffic coming through the bottle neck towards the prison.
Cyclist, at full speed, undertakes all the cars waiting at the red light.
Mounts the pavement, just misses child going into LOGS.
Rejoins road, light still on red and causes oncoming vehicles to
take avoiding action.
Male, aged about 18, wearing cap and a satchel type bag.
Utterly utterly stupid, dangerous and needs to be stopped.
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On 8 May 2013 at 4:22pm Cooper and son wrote:
I think he any well stop himself in the end , we will be waiting ,
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On 8 May 2013 at 4:42pm thatslife wrote:
there may be an explanation, but if not, the person is just being an idiot. the fact they were on a cycle is insignificant. if you stood at that junction long enough you would inevitably see an idiot pedestrian, an idiot car driver (or two) an idiot bus driver. an idiot lorry driver etc etc etc etc. it's life. and you know what? sometimes... ...we are the idiot ourselves and everyone is getting annoyed by us.
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On 8 May 2013 at 5:22pm teaboy wrote:
He's not a rude cyclist - he's a bad cyclist. The worst thing about it is I doubt he knows he's a bad cyclist and thinks his behaviour is both normal and sensible. Everyone makes mistakes, but riding as described is not a mistake - it's a deliberate action that endangers both the rider and other road users.
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On 8 May 2013 at 5:22pm Pedestrian wrote:
You're spot on thatslife, we all make mistakes. Lets hope he grows up and doesn't continue to pose a threat to his and other peoples wellbeing.
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On 8 May 2013 at 6:42pm Rookie wrote:
Prison crossroads on Sunday afternoon. I'm in a queue of traffic coming from Brighton waiting at a red light. Two cyclists, wearing all the Bradley Wiggins coloured lycra stuff, undertake everyone at speed, go straight through the red light and turn left towards Nevill. I caught them up by the Hospital and shouted to them that the "red light is for you as well". The only reply I got is a well known hand gesture. Nice.
 
 
On 8 May 2013 at 6:55pm teaboy wrote:
Rookie - the only offence is the red light jump. Filtering up the inside is allowed on bikes. It can be risky, and shouldn't be done excessively fast or up the inside on left-turning vehicles though. Cyclists get a lot of things shouted at them from cars, 95% of it is abusive so you get the mindset of shouting=abuse. Quite often you can't actually hear coherent words - just 'shouty noise'.
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On 8 May 2013 at 7:14pm Wiggo wrote:
Almost got taken out t'other day crossing over in school hill! Didn't expect a Lycra lout to be blasting down the hill.
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On 9 May 2013 at 10:40am Rookie wrote:
Teaboy - Surely one offence is one too many? They heard me ok. I had my head out of the passenger side window and was no more than 4 feet away.
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On 9 May 2013 at 11:05am Southover Queen wrote:
It might be the only offence, but riding that fast alongside stationery traffic particularly near a school is simply asking for a passenger to open a nearside door and take them out completely. It's plain stupid and would probably count as careless driving, since cyclists are just as subject to the rules of the road as anyone else.
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On 9 May 2013 at 11:23am Southover Queen wrote:
Eeek sorry: stationAry traffic, obviously, unless said traffic was made of paper....
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On 9 May 2013 at 11:35am teaboy wrote:
As I wasn't present I only have Rookie's description of "at speed" to go on. I've already said filtering shouldn't be fast (for the obvious reasons pointed out).
It wouldn't be 'careless driving', and cyclists aren't subject to exactly the same rules as drivers. Maybe you should reread the Highway Code. For instance, cyclists are permitted to have flashing front/rear lights whereas motor vehicles aren't, and most speed limits do not apply to cyclists (unless specified in local bylaws).
Cyclists are, however, subject to those rules of the road, and shiould obey them.
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On 9 May 2013 at 12:08pm Southover Queen wrote:
I didn't say they were subject to the same rules as cars, just as cars aren't subject to the same rules as motorbikes or HGVs. I said they're subject to the rules of the road, which you acknowledge they are.

If a cyclist whizzing down the gutter or on the pavement causes an accident with someone opening a car door then I'd say it's likely that it would be deemed careless driving or whatever the cycling equivalent is. I don't know for sure, as I'm not a lawyer or a copper, but it seems sensible.

Check it out here »
 
 
On 9 May 2013 at 5:54pm Cyclist1978 wrote:
Illegal = idiot who should be charged with jumping a red light and riding without due care and attention, filtering through traffic is legal!
 
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On 9 May 2013 at 5:55pm Cyclist1978 wrote:
oh btw Pedestrian, still waiting for our test ride over the cobbles.....! Get a life!
 
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On 9 May 2013 at 6:04pm Cyclist1978 wrote:
My new hobby is called 'winding up Pedestrian' hahahaha clearly he/she/it is actually right on the red light front but alas no apology for touting me as a 'rude' cyclist and no admittance of being a good old fashioned, ill informed, blue rinse oh not to mention busybody hehe
This is so much fun I may have to continue poking fun at you!!
Are you related to Mary Whitehouse, Dorothy Branning (nee Cotton) or Maggie Thatcher?
Funny thing is, I have been writing a comedy based on characters I come across in real life...watch this space you may recognise yourself in some way...
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On 9 May 2013 at 6:06pm Jezza wrote:
I'm sick of these red light jumping tax avoiders and their lycra fetishes. It is well known that these foul, soul destroying, testicle waxing, arse merchants are a curse on modern day society.
 
 
On 9 May 2013 at 6:07pm Cyclist1978 wrote:
Jezza - I love you x x x x
I reckon pedestrian wants to be your friend....hahahaha
 
 
On 9 May 2013 at 6:08pm Pedestrian wrote:
Jezza, I want your babies.
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On 9 May 2013 at 6:11pm Pedestrian wrote:
Cyclist1978, I am actually sorry for my poor choice of victim, I of course apologise wholeheartedly for my rant at you. You are clearly a good cyclist and I do not wish to victimise you any longer. I do agree that jumping red lights is dangerous but I now realise that there is no way of riding at 25 mph down a one way street and that actually having seen the contra flow sign I apologise.
Again please accept my apologies
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On 9 May 2013 at 6:14pm Cyclist1978 wrote:
Thats ok mate now we can be friends and go cycling together? Fancy a pint sometime?
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On 9 May 2013 at 9:06pm GhostBike wrote:
Strict Liability, one day....

Watch the video »
 
 
On 10 May 2013 at 1:37am Local wrote:
I assume that the cyclists who get squashed aren't usually the ones who deserve it. Shame.
 
 
On 11 May 2013 at 9:00am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
How does strict liability work in an accident involving a motor cycle and a cyclist, Ghostbike?


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