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Reposting "Parking Predators"

On 30 Nov 2006 at 9:10pm Nick Luthi wrote:
A little experiment here.
"Coolspot Blue coat" has annoyed me so much, that despite the thread falling down and out of site on the page, I'm going to requote him and all appropriate messages.
In his own words - and he hangs himself.

On 30 Nov 2006 at 9:14pm Nick Luthi wrote:
On 22/11/2006 lopster wrote:
hear hear mick - somebody must have an idea as to what we can do to combat the red skunks though? - nothing personal to the individuals I hasten to add - though watching one or two of them post tickets on disable badged cars in the disabled bay on the West end of Cliffe bridge is just incredible - even when their error(s) are pointed out to them they still continue

On 25/11/2006 blue coat wrote:
perhaps his badge was out of date or was it a nicked one so many reasons why a disabled badge holder can get a ticket most think they can park anywhere most dont read the book they are given
On 30 Nov 2006 at 9:16pm Nick Luthi wrote:
On 29/11/2006 coolspot blue coat wrote:
If everyone parked properly, payed at machines(for the times they needed), displayed their valid badges/permits (with there reg's in) Then we wouldn't have to issue pcn's.
On 30 Nov 2006 at 9:22pm Nick Luthi wrote:
On 30/11/2006 blue coat wrote:
traffic wardens get more than the min wage and they are not red coated they are blue.
On 30 Nov 2006 at 9:23pm Smiler wrote:
Blimey Nick, you are a bit miffed aren't you?
On 30 Nov 2006 at 9:25pm Nick Luthi wrote:
On 30/11/2006 Nick Luthi wrote:
I don't know whether you're for real " Coolspot blue coat" or not.
I suspect not.
( By the way - loving the groovy blue strip ).
And - if you are real - then I sympathise with your low wages, inflexible management, all weather working and the fact that you are responsible for enforcing an unpopular policy.
But you, NCP and ESCC obviously believe that if only Lewes residents "behaved themselves"
( preferably not driving altogether ), then the parking scheme would be perceived as the masterpiece of "consultative local government in action" that you obviously consider it to be.
A few salient points to make, Bluebottle.
Holding Lewes to blame for the clear and documented failiures of the parking scheme is akin to opening a shop and then claiming that it would run so much more efficiently if it wasn't for those b***ard customers.
Never, ever forget who represents who.
If you choose to big yourselves up as the "Enforcers of the Law", then I personally feel that most intelligent people would agree that good law only works with the consent of the majority support of the enforced.
Currently, you do not have that popular support, and ESCC and NCP have only themselves ( and not us ) to blame.
Frankly, we pay all of you, so you might consider how offensive it is to a long-standing resident to be told that the existant chaos is a result of our intransigence and disobedience.
Just reflect on your arrogance for a second.
Disabled badge "out of date or stolen"?; "don't read the book that they are given"?.
For a sub-contracted council employee, I'm amazed that you're not better trained because, you are an e-mail address away from a disability discrimination charge.
( New act - maybe you better read it )
You just can't accept that NCP employ bad apples, can you?
They train you badly, pay you like sh*t
and you and they make mistakes -
Hundreds of them.
I'm not going to rattle off examples off how badly administered and agressively this scheme is managed.
Better first hand information, than my hearsay.
But I'd like to remind you of "April Fool's Day".
And I wonder whose going to be the first person to mention the Argos vouchers?
Shucks - it was only an urban myth after all.
Pity, I heard it from a Bluebottle.
On 30 Nov 2006 at 9:32pm Nick Luthi wrote:
Yeah. I'm furious.
I've always thought this site was a bit single issue sometimes.
Parking scheme?
Bureaucratic cock-up.- of course - how could it be otherwise?

But - I take it all back.

If we are held in this much contempt, then...................
On 30 Nov 2006 at 10:21pm humbug wrote:
On 30 Nov 2006 at 10:45pm Nick Luthi wrote:
I know I've criticised the Forum for being a Kangaroo court in the past, but this charlie ( his posts ) is either trying to wind everyone up, or he genuinely dislikes the people that pay him.
Local Government is not about Iraq, Trident or Cash for Honours.

It's about this joker and the men who employ him.

On 30 Nov 2006 at 11:07pm Nick Luthi wrote:
Guess I should go have a cigarette.

I don't know, Humbug. I'm not in a very good mood - it's true.
But is that necessary a bad thing?
I do think that a lot of Lewes is pretty pi**ed at things at the moment and it's just how do we best get heard?

Angry seems good to me.

My experience of LDC is so abysmal that I if appear a little "driven" in these threads, it's mainly that I've a bit more time than I had to consider if there was an opportunity to change anything.

I've talked to traders and residents ( and a few local "representatives" ) and May is a really good shot at stirring things up.

For "cage" read Lewes.
On 1 Dec 2006 at 2:37am lopster wrote:
If only we could pay FAIRLY for time that we park - the ESCC machines do not give change - yhey willingly accept overpayment though - wish I could run my business like this!!!
On 1 Dec 2006 at 8:59am I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
It's nice to see Lewes regularly featured on T/V... even nicer to see all those decapitated parking machines.
The LA man who tries to defend the scheme and also states that the populus will now be punished by increased parking charges looked and sounded a prat.
Lewesians have done very well to be top of the "Parking Meter Blown to Buggerey League Table".... Way infront of Brighton/ Worthing etc.
Well done to all concerned.
There is just a small possibility that the great & the good that walk amongst us may soon realise the illconceived scheme is not wanted.
On 1 Dec 2006 at 10:20pm time bomb wrote:
u gonna try blowing one up dont live in lewes anymore if u do u will be living in lewes again in the jail a 3 year holliday lol
On 2 Dec 2006 at 12:07am Coolspot Blue Coat wrote:
sorry to sound picky but this is the only post i have writen
On 29/11/2006
If everyone parked properly, payed at machines(for the times they needed), displayed their valid badges/permits (with there reg's in) Then we wouldn't have to issue pcn's.
the other ones are from a different user called-blue coat
On 2 Dec 2006 at 12:46am Nick Luthi wrote:
I apologise.
But I think it was a reasonable assumption that you were one and the same person.
And I disagree that your comment reflects Lewes' experience of the reality of the implementation of this scheme.
On 2 Dec 2006 at 12:46pm Coolspot Blue Coat wrote:
Nick luthi
I accept your apology and yes my choice of name doen't help matters.
If the council were to put in more carparking places around the town and a park and ride service then it COULD help matters (a little).
On 2 Dec 2006 at 4:27pm I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
Bejaysus... Is it to be me in jail Time Bomb?
Cos the last I heard they had no vacancies.
Anyhow, I've already reported Chav and I claim my 5.
On 2 Dec 2006 at 4:44pm sky blue pink coat wrote:
dont give a toss mate
On 2 Dec 2006 at 7:39pm mick wrote:
In the grand scheme of things the lewes parking scheme really is insignificant. if the people who post on here so stridently applied themselves to the things that really matter it may be worth taking note of their comments.
PS It is a fact that disabled blue badges are being stolen and sold in pubs for about 200. A parking attendant will and should issue a ticket to a vehicle displaying a badge incorrectly. This will not only educate the holder as to the terms and conditions undrer which the badge was issued but also find out which vehicles are displaying an invalid badge.
It has nothing to do with the DDA and indeed is supported by a number of charities who assist the disabled.
I know you are bitter Nick but your bile is misplaced.
On 2 Dec 2006 at 9:47pm Nick Luthi wrote:
Mick. I'm curious.
By "grand scheme of things" - do you mean events that are beyond our mortal ken i.e death and tsunamis.

And therefore are events that adversely affect our day to day quality of life to be comparitively judged as insignificant and hence not "worth taking note of"?

Oh well. You're right. Guess I'll give up then and let wiser men like you call it for the rest of us.
By the way- I don't ( can't ) drive.
On 2 Dec 2006 at 10:12pm mick wrote:
Thanks for that Nick.
You know it makes sense.
On 6 Dec 2006 at 1:34am nick Luthi wrote:
You're a golden tongued charmer, aren't you?

Articulate your insight a little further - so that we can understand exactly which "toss" it is, that you do not "give".
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