On 7 May 2017 at 10:52pm Hooky wrote:
Does anyone else consider it only fair and reasonable to expect pub landlords to check and clear up both unbroken and broken glasses / bottles within say a 50 yard radius of their establishments each morning?
This morning for instance, there was broken glass (very hazardous to dogs, for example) in the immediate vicinity of the Lamb, the Lansdown, the Royal Oak, the Elly, the Volly and the Gardeners. They were the only places I walked past, so the probem may have been more widespread. I accept that there is a chance of the glass resulting from non-customers, but a bit of community-mindedness would be appreciated.
On 7 May 2017 at 10:57pm Lewes man wrote:
Well said
On 7 May 2017 at 11:41pm Harvey S Best wrote:
Think 50 yards is a bit too much to expect but clearing up the fag butts within 25 yards of the pub doorway should be a matter of priority (and personal pride).
On 8 May 2017 at 12:03am Hooky wrote:
I thought I was being quite restrained by saying only 50 yards. That's not very far for p*ssed punters to wander out with a glass or bottle to finish or get tired of before dropping it – or even just putting it down, from where it can easily get broken, and present quite a hazard...
On 8 May 2017 at 7:42am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Pubs that have this problem should use plastic glasses and insist on serving bottled drinks in them.
On 8 May 2017 at 9:47am Ed Can Do wrote:
I can't think of many pubs that would let you outside with a drink after 9pm these days and certainly none that would let a customer wander off with a glass or bottle. Lot of street drinking going on these days though, perhaps Tesco, Waitrose and Aldi should be out sweeping the streets if that's your logic?
On 8 May 2017 at 10:05am Mario wrote:
Maybe we should follow the example of bar owners in the rest of Europe, who give the area in front of their premises a good scrubbing with a brush and hose pipe every morning.
On 8 May 2017 at 10:29am huw wrote:
I've just seen this post and apologise for the broken glass (I did notice it yesterday and cleared it up along with a couple of cans all of which, in this instance, were products that we don't sell).
Sometimes, in the hectic life of running a pub, we miss things out. We do try to sweep up the pavement and road outside the pub and I pick up any cans, bottles, glasses (mostly not from ours, they end up further away) on my way to work.
No landlord wants their glasses to go missing but it's pretty much impossible to guarantee that this never happens. Most of the time these end up in another establishment or deposited on the way there or the way home.
I remember a neighbour angrily handing back a collection of glasses that had been put in his garden. I gave up explaining that they were from products we don't sell and took them and put them in the bin.
I also think there has been a reduction in street cleaning services which only exacerbates the problem.
On 8 May 2017 at 10:35am Clifford wrote:
I think Huw sums it up - a reduction in street cleaning services. We all pay collectively - households and businesses - for this service and we don't expect to have to clean the streets ourselves on top of that. Littering, of course, is a different matter.
On 8 May 2017 at 1:25pm Hooky wrote:
I welcome Huw's response. It seems very fair to me that all pubs should contribute to clearing up in this way, which would collegiately tackle the problem without the need to allocate particular detritus to specific premises. I think Ed is missing the point – take a walk past any Lewes pub on any busy night (perhaps unless it's pouring with rain) and you'll see an enormous number of people outside smoking and drinking, often after 11pm even, let alone his mythical 9pm curfew. Regardless of whether general street cleaning is scarcer these days or not, I wouldn't consider those crews having to devote lots of their time to such a specific, commercial premises-provoked problem to be very fair.
On 8 May 2017 at 1:28pm Tasty Tracey wrote:
I personally don't think it should be the landlords responsibility, it should be responsibility of the louts who dropped the bottles or glasses in the first place. Failing that it should be the local authorities responsibility as that is what we pay our community taxes taxes for. Don't see why landlords or staff should do it unless inside the pub.
On 8 May 2017 at 1:40pm Hooky wrote:
An extraordinary and wholly unrealistic attitude, IMHO.
On 8 May 2017 at 4:34pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I wonder if this has become more of a problem since the smoking ban? You certainly seem to see more people drinking outside pubs than you did before the ban.
On 8 May 2017 at 8:49pm Drinker wrote:
I miss my drinking days. I actually have to BUY glasses now.