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Progressive Alliance?

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On 9 Dec 2016 at 9:07pm Butterfly effect wrote:
Has anyone thought about setting up a progressive alliance in Lewes?
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On 10 Dec 2016 at 12:39am Dexter wrote:
King Krimson & Genesis would never allow it.
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On 10 Dec 2016 at 10:09am Clifford wrote:
There was one in Lewes until the Lib Dems sold out to the Tories in 2010. It was called tactical voting.
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On 10 Dec 2016 at 5:18pm Tango wrote:
What the hell is a progressive alliance??
Does it actually do something or is it just about making folk feel good?
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On 10 Dec 2016 at 6:35pm Earl of Lewes wrote:
Would we all have to be anti-Brexit to be part of it?
 
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On 10 Dec 2016 at 7:01pm anon wrote:
anonymous
 
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On 10 Dec 2016 at 10:32pm Newms wrote:
I have a letter in the Express about a remain alliance now and I am thinking of doing something about it .
Funnily enough the news that the Lib Dem PLP was blaming Govia for the strikes struck me as every reasons why the Lib Dems drive me up the wall but I will hold my nose and vote for her . Those the choices you have to make
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On 10 Dec 2016 at 10:41pm Clifford wrote:
Earl of Lewes wrote: 'Would we all have to be anti-Brexit to be part of it?'

Afraid so, Earl. You'd have to be a paid up member of the 'We love the EU neo-liberal project, along with the City institutions, the international banks and corporations, the CBI' club. You know, those 'progressive' worker-living organisations.
 
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On 11 Dec 2016 at 12:27pm @clifford wrote:
Yup,much better to be selling our arses to macdonalds and the like as a tax haven 50's theme park..Murdoch coming back as well !...upping our presence in the dodgy little Middle East countries for the sake of economy.What a great future you have argued for Clifford.
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On 11 Dec 2016 at 6:33pm Clifford wrote:
@clifford wrote: 'What a great future you have argued for Clifford.'

All the things you mention - McDonalds, arms sales to Saudi Arabia, Murdoch - have been here throughout our EU membrship. Are you arguing the EU was intended to protect us from them? You seem to inhabit a dream world in which the Goldman Sachs-friendly EU project is the people's friend.

'The Project is to create such a deep exchange of people and ideas and money that it is impossible to tell the difference between the public interest and the Goldman Sachs interest.'

Check it out here »
 
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On 11 Dec 2016 at 11:31pm @clifford wrote:
Yes,we are far more vunerable now.Macdonalds are fleeing Luxembourg for us...the latest message to the Middle East is we are back...Murdoch will most likely be able to buy sky.
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On 12 Dec 2016 at 11:48am Clifford wrote:
@clifford wrote: 'Yes,we are far more vunerable now.'

But we're still in the EU, so how is it protecting us? Meanwhile, what do you make of the youth unemployment numbers in the Eurozone? Not much protection there. Greece 46.5%, Spain 43.6%, Italy 36.4%... The Frenvch governmeny forcing through legislation to make workers' conditions worse. All part of the glorious EU project.
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On 12 Dec 2016 at 12:15pm @clifford wrote:
I think you would concede the voting to leave has an effect,I can't really think of a nirvana type economic area in the world Clifford,everyone has problems and we will decline in isolation having to deal with unsavoury countries and tycoons to get by as the new world order begins to emerge.Any way tiz done so let's just see how it goes since we have little choice now.
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On 12 Dec 2016 at 12:17pm Mr S Bradbury wrote:
Well said Clifford, do you speak many languages? I can't even understand what @cliff is saying!!
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On 12 Dec 2016 at 12:28pm Pedro wrote:
There is a case surely that being in the Eurozone is damaging to certain countries, but would ditching the currency be the silver bullet for Greece, Spain and Italy? I suspect that if Italy leave the Euro, they will remain in the EU as well, so maybe the issues about debt/unemployment is only in part due to the glorious "neo-liberal, freemason, illuminati, lizard-people EU project".

Its clearly not easy to get the balance right when it comes to managing 500m+ people, just as its the case within the UK with just 65m where deep financial inequality remains and arguably widens. 19 countries use the Euro as well, not all of them are struggling like Spain, Italy and Greece. Britain has issues beyond the singular rosy statistic of low-unemployment, and has debts that look quite at home with many countries in the Eurozone. Perhaps the answer to all of Europes problems is just lock-down, nationalism and dismantling of the European Union, but I imagine its not. We shall soon see. People want change/revolution, so its going to happen, life will go on, I just hope they aren't disappointed if the outcomes aren't anywhere nearly as bold and as exciting as their expectations or anti-establishment election results have been in 2016.


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