On 9 Jun 2011 at 3:04pm Dave wrote:
Ha ha, it hasn't taken long! Tory LDC has made it to the Rotten Boroughs page already.
On 9 Jun 2011 at 3:21pm Deelite wrote:
errr.. what for?
On 9 Jun 2011 at 3:44pm PLUMPTON LAD wrote:
"Since the election, two [Lewes district] Tory councillors have been suspended: Ian White after admitting a drink driving offence and Barry Groves being charged with assaulting a police officer, obstructing police and using threatening words and behaviour, all of which he denies".
On 9 Jun 2011 at 8:32pm bastian wrote:
I thought it compulsary for tory candidates to have a colourful past and preferabley a perversion to.
On 10 Jun 2011 at 8:30am anna stacia wrote:
So what now for the law abiding Tories?
On 10 Jun 2011 at 9:58am Paul Newman wrote:
These are mere,"These but for the grace of god ...", indiscretions.It humanises the perps, makes them seem approachable vulnerable and ..yes ..likeable. For Liberals the misdemeanour is usually sex related. Thorpe Lloyd George, Pantsdown Cleggover. Even old Gladstone ran around saving young prostitutes from their remaining virtue.This always used to confuse me when the average Liberal woman looked about as enticing as a sack of oats in a rough knit jumper. That was ages ago though .They look like Conservatives now.
On 10 Jun 2011 at 11:10am PLUMPTON LAD wrote:
Huh? Sorry, you think being over the limit for driving - and potentially putting lives at risk is "likeable"?
You think assaulting a police officer (if proven) is "likeable"?
On 10 Jun 2011 at 11:33am Paul Newman wrote:
More likeable than calling up the Police to drop someone in the brown stuff in my book but as for the Councillors you have to take people in the round. Not their finest moments perhaps but nothing to get your knickers in a twist about.
On 10 Jun 2011 at 11:52am Dave wrote:
Paul, do you know more about this then? As in how do you know if and who called up the police to drop them "in the brown stuff"?
I didn't realise that stopping a possible drunk from killing an innocent pedestrian or driver, was objectionable. There speaks a true Tory.
On 10 Jun 2011 at 12:25pm Clifford wrote:
Yes, it's al just a bit of fun. Like those expenses claims - no harm done really. Just showed MPs are human and always prepared to take advantage of their position by ripping off the taxpayer while giving us sanctimonious lectures about 'the national interest'.
On 10 Jun 2011 at 12:38pm Paul Newman wrote:
Dave -You are probably right ,we are insufficiently vigilant in our spying on each I expect we would be much better people if the threat of informing and surveillance was constant.
Clifford - Yes lets all fulminate about a duck pond and forget the countless billions hosed on the Euro-zone , International AID and unsustainable public sector pensions. ...etc...etc....Its not pretty but its trivia really .
On 10 Jun 2011 at 2:15pm Wise one wrote:
If we all cut and paste grrr mail from before after every PN comment - do you think he will get the message. I'll start:
PN - that doesn't change that fact that you called the general public a bunch of idiots before the actual vote was decided.
You're self-obsessed and self-interested - don't claim to have anyone's but your own best interests at heart with anything that you write. You're happy to invoke the power of the people when it suits your cause, and equally happy to claim they're incapable of making a decision if they're likely to disagree with you. You can't have it both ways.
Now get on with some work and stop bothering this forum (note it's a forum and not YOUR blog) with your tiresome self-righteousness.
Oh and your witticisms are far from witty. Far far far from witty.
On 10 Jun 2011 at 3:24pm Paul Newman wrote:
Alright alright jeeez I was only enjoying myself. I think there are a few people that comment here who are good fun and interesting toboot but if its going to be nothing but hey nonny mouses ( and their pathetic little fans fcs) being vindictive personal and just plain boring its pointless .
..And there is no point in begging me to stay !!!
On 10 Jun 2011 at 3:45pm bastian wrote:
Wise one, you are indeed wise.
On 10 Jun 2011 at 6:35pm Old Cynic wrote:
Ohh Paul you are such a wag! If I go out on the booze and knock you down with my motor I trust you will think its just a laugh and Im a likeable rogue!
On 10 Jun 2011 at 7:07pm Southover Girl wrote:
Why are you giving Paul such a hard time?
Is this the Left forum or the Lewes forum?
I enjoy the banter and the digs you make at each other. If everyone agreed it wouldn't be half as much fun to follow.
On 10 Jun 2011 at 7:09pm bastian wrote:
we're giving paul a hard time because he said something prattish about drink driving,we're all fair game if we do that.
On 10 Jun 2011 at 7:10pm bastian wrote:
However i am having a go at the ories for their pratishness because it's worth it.
On 10 Jun 2011 at 8:59pm plumpton girl wrote:
I have no idea whether a conscientious citizen reported Ian White to the police or not, if they did good for them. The police actively encourage reporting of suspected drink drivers. Below is text from the Cheshire Police website
Report a drink driver
There is no excuse. Never drink and drive - not even a drop. Any amount of alcohol will affect your ability to drive safely.
If you know someone is drink driving then you should report them.
Report immediate drink drive issue
If you have an immediate drink drive issue - like you've seen somebody drinking and then go to drive their car - you should phone Cheshire Police straight away.
I love banter where appropriate but not the trivialisation of such a serious issue.
On 10 Jun 2011 at 11:36pm NAMELESS SNIPE MERCHANT wrote:
Every forum should have a figure of fun. Even better if that figure is an arrogant and inconsistent right winger who accuses his constituents of living off roadkill, wears tasteless stripy suits and can't figure out how to get his keyboard to do full stops properly.
On 11 Jun 2011 at 2:09am expat two wrote:
And more so if he is a Tory that advocates drink driving and assaulting the police. Presumably this is a level of tolerance he doesn't show to working class criminals.
Notice how he tried to turn it into a criticism of Liberal politicians, citing a handful of examples of Liberals being liberal, like its a bad thing.
He fails, however, to mention the far more frequent and sordid Tory sex scandals for example; Profumo, Jellico, Lambert, Parkinson (eucchh!) Mellor (double eucchh!) Major & Currie (barf!) and of course, that snivelling nauseating little creep Archer & the prostitute.
I pity his children, what an appalling example he sets. I bet they avoid sharing a room with him when the news is on, fed up with getting coated in his spittle.
And I agree his typing/writing skills show a degree of either carelessness or ignorance. What does 'those but for the grace of god' mean?
Its a standard egomania, once beaten, to claim to have been joking all along and then act with indignation at being personally criticised, (as if he has never trolled). But you know folks, I think he's finally been shamed him abandoning this site. Common sense wins out at last.
On 12 Jun 2011 at 12:13pm seb wrote:
Both Ian White and Barry Groves seemed "tired and emotional" during a debate on the AV referendum held on the evening both these councillors were arrested. Indeed, Barry Groves was ejected by the minister of Seaford Baptist Church and fell down the stairs into a startled children's playgroup!
Hilarious for participants and audience it was not. Intimidating? Yes.
I doubt Mrs.White's claims that her husband was set up by Liberal Democrats after the gathering: it was packed with Conservative supporters, most of whom were less than impressed by their candidates' behaviour.
On 12 Jun 2011 at 4:15pm charitable chap wrote:
Bit off topic here, however, Paul Newman, why do you have an issue with International Aid (IA)?
The UK has agreed to Millenium Development Goals of 0.07% of GDP spending on IA by 2015, it has not yet achieved that level, approx 0.05% to date.
Now I don`t see why anyone would have a problem in giving 7p of every £100 to help raise people out of sickening poverty, blimey, not even half the cost of one fag or 5 Polo mints - unless they are just sickeningly selfish!
It is unfortunate that the coalition are seeking to tie in IA with securitisation - or, in other words, arms dealing, but then I never did trust ANY right of centre political parties.
On 12 Jun 2011 at 4:40pm Madame Bovary wrote:
First Peter leaves us, then Paul!
I miss Peter's good humoured (and no doubt wine-fuelled) interjections. Come on, Peter, give us the lowdown on Amsterdam. How are you doing? I hope you haven't been in any cake shops. Why don't you drop us a line?
And we will miss Paul if he doesn't relent! You've got to admit he raised the adrenolin level with his provocative opinions.
On 12 Jun 2011 at 5:04pm MC wrote:
But we do have Mrs Twine!
Surprisingly I'll miss Paul's interjections too, but I'll also be pretty relieved if he does not post again. I am very tired of the never ending promotion of his political agenda. I'm as up for a political discussion as the next guy but reecently politics have been overwhelming this forum and it's been 100% down to Paul. It's not his point of view that irks me (in fact I am glad to hear it) I just don't want it shoved down my throat all the time.
On 12 Jun 2011 at 5:43pm Clifford wrote:
I aways disagree with Paul. But he is always good value. If only he could learn what 'brevity' means though.
On 12 Jun 2011 at 6:09pm Grunge wrote:
At least he isn't a vicar. Just think how long his sermons would be. zzzzzzzz
On 12 Jun 2011 at 6:12pm Mrs Twine wrote:
MC, dear, it's no use looking at me for political pronouncements. I always ask for a postal vote, and then I always forget where I put it.
On 12 Jun 2011 at 9:58pm MC wrote:
The provision of International Aid has always been tied into favours and commerce, including (extremely lucrative) arms deals. Our IA budget is a function of relationships dating from the Commonwealth and Empire and the UKs fading importance and competitivity. IA is what we have left to buy influence and deals. This is what drives the budget. It's been the same for a long time. Our coalition are just continuing the tradition.