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On 15 Sep 2012 at 2:28pm Younger cynic wrote:
Traffic flow in fisher street will improve I have no doubt , air quality in the Elly will drop , using the crossing from the Elly to the castle side will be more difficult has town bound traffic queues back blocking the crossing , out of town bound will pick up speed and not see people waiting , sun street will suffer as will abinger place , due to blocked exits by queuing traffic so those streets air quality will drop , the speed in fisher street will increase making market lane even more of a hazard , so we will get all these added problems just to solve one , is this a sledge hammer to crack a nut , and is this just a amazing coincidence that there are coucuil offices in fisher street ,
On 15 Sep 2012 at 3:03pm Southover Queen wrote:
I get accused all the time of being a windbag. However at least I do give some context.

What are you on about, Younger Cynic? It appears that traffic flow is to be changed - how?
On 15 Sep 2012 at 4:09pm lewisian wrote:
Traffic on white hill will be giving way to traffic from fisher street this time for keeps
On 15 Sep 2012 at 6:00pm Ed Can Do wrote:
Speed in Fisher Street will increase? Really? It's still a thin road with a blind corner hiding a junction and there'll still be cars parked on the pavement picking up takeaways all evening so anyone driving quicker along it because they don't have to give way at the end is a proper idiot.

I think a couple of cars waiting past the Elly is a better idea than gridlock up Station Street, past the station and most of the way down Lansdown Place that you currently get most afternoons. Guaranteed there'll be at least one accident when someone coming up White Hill forgets to give way though.
On 15 Sep 2012 at 6:11pm Southover Queen wrote:
Agreed, Ed. The speed a lot of drivers build up from the mini-roundabout to the top of White Hill is terrifying sometimes, so with a bit of luck they'll be forced to travel at a sensible speed.

The other day I was turning right out of Fisher St and there was an old chap waiting to cross the road. By the look of him he'd been there a while and he was quite shaky. The traffic, true to form, was hurtling along, so in the end I pulled out and blocked the road so he could cross safely. I don't understand why everyone must drive so selfishly.
On 15 Sep 2012 at 6:20pm Younger syndic wrote:
SQ. You spouted off a little too soon methinks , why must everyone drive so selfishly , so I pulled out and blocked the road ! Fool hardy to say the least. , even if it was an act of kindness , we will just see wont we , I don't think I will be to far wrong , I think the first accident will be a car carrying its extra speed from fisher street straying to slow for the right turn on a wet night ,that corner is always slippery , straight into the new flats !
On 15 Sep 2012 at 6:40pm Southover Queen wrote:
Why foolhardy? The road was clear and my car was quite obviously blocking the road. Anyone driving at speed (as they certainly do) from the Elly would have had plenty of time to stop before hitting me. And my medium sized saloon car is a great deal more visible than a frail old gentleman tottering across the road with his two sticks.
On 15 Sep 2012 at 6:52pm SHS wrote:
Strange how the local council(s) abhor zebra crossings. That stretch of one-way near the auction house badly needs a pedestrian crossing as does that stretch of road by the railway station. Well done SQ for considering a pedestrian, I imagine that you're not one of the pavement parking brigade.
On 16 Sep 2012 at 8:34am Sussex Jim wrote:
Ed can do, you are correct with the first part of your post; anyone driving quicker is a proper idiot. But I came out of Market Lane recently. I stopped and looked, and Fisher Street was clear. I pulled out, and then someone hooted. The proper idiot obviously did not realise that I cannot see further than the blind corner.
I don't like "traffic calming", but something should be done to protect this junction. This P.I. was going too fast.
On 16 Sep 2012 at 8:50am Pete wrote:
Perhaps they should allow priority to traffic coming out of Market Lane first, that should stop PIs speeding up Fisher Street ? Plus, it REALLY is time to have a 20 MPH speed limit in town....
On 16 Sep 2012 at 10:42am Southover Queen wrote:
Agreed re Market Street, Jim and Pete. As a resident of (surprise surprise) Southover, I'd observe that there are several really nasty exits around here where you can't see what's coming until you're right across the flow of traffic. It's just luck that there hasn't been a really nasty accident at Rotten Row/High St, for instance. The sensible driver in Lewes drives really defensively, expecting people to pull out from blind corners. So if they're going to improve the flow of traffic in Fisher St they need to make sure that the Market St exit is safe.
On 16 Sep 2012 at 5:10pm Younger cynic wrote:
SQ so now you are saying it might be too fast in fisher street , giving market LANE , priority will then produce stationry traffic at peak , same old problem , as for PI,s they are everywhere , I tried to drive into mount place from mount pleasent , was stationary , then when it was clear made my move , a racing cyclist came from fisher street at speed round the blind bend , and shouted thinking he had to take no care of himself , I let him pass as it was his right of way , but this speeding for have hurt him more than me . This is the only evidence that the speed would increase ,
On 16 Sep 2012 at 6:27pm Southover Queen wrote:
I'm truly not sure what you're saying, Younger Cynic. You seem to be saying that traffic moves too fast. Yes, I agree. Most of the time traffic moves freely in Fisher St now, and it often goes faster than conditions dictate and makes the exit from Market Lane very tricky.

I couldn't figure out from your account what the cyclist did wrong if it was his right of way: if you'd hit him it would have been your fault, presumably. But you didn't hit him because you stopped in time. I think. Or perhaps I've completely got the wrong end of the stick? What's your point?
On 16 Sep 2012 at 7:00pm Yc wrote:
My point is even cyclists are PI,s at times , whilst it was his right of way , and under the new proposed layout would still be , traffic I feel sure will come out of fisher street that little bit faster safe in the knowledge that they don't have to stop , or even think about stoping , I was making a text book manoeuvre , when this vehicle ( a bike ) came round a blind bend at speed , he had all the gear.and a decent bike so plenty of experience ( I think ) but made it my fault , on this occasion n apart from his foul mouth no harm done , I was not I the wrong , just the wrong place for him , but his speed and lack of thought , ( that something might be in the way ) could be a problem with the new layout , hope thats a little clearer , just highlighted my experience as a possible future accident waiting to happen
On 16 Sep 2012 at 7:33pm Double Topp wrote:
Young C. You have to learn that Southover Queen is NEVER wrong... but she is a jumped up arrogant Bi...... Queen.
She blocks the road for one man to cross.. when there is a Zebra crossing 35m down the hill at the Elle... I bet she'll be wanting ANOTHER Zebra crossing just for that Lazy old man, As is her war cry.
Dont bother Arguing with her.... shes not worth the time!!!!!
As for the other arguement of others... They tried changing the right of way there and it dodnt work... People will speed down along side the elle and across the pells up North street to avoid having to wait in rush hour traffic.... Past the kids play ground. It wont work... there is nothing wrong with how things are now. Why try to fix what isnt broken?
On 16 Sep 2012 at 7:57pm Southover Queen wrote:
Hurrah! I almost added an invitation to the SQ haters, but decided it would be regarded as bad form.

I wasn't arguing with YC, I was trying to figure out what s/he was trying to say.

DT, I hope that wasn't your dad tottering on the pavement, I really do, although frankly since he was a nice polite old gentleman I doubt it. Either that or he didn't pass on the most basic of manners.

The man waiting to cross was near the corner up the hill a little bit from the Spice Merchant. If you weren't so desperate to find something wrong you'd have realised that there is absolutely no safe way from that spot to the pedestrian crossing. You either have to cross the main road to the old Nick or you have to cross Fisher Street AND Mount Place to walk down to the Ellie. Even if you're very fit that's a challenge, and a nightmare if you're not. Maybe you won't get old, but if you do I hope you meet someone who's just a little more tolerant and thoughtful than you.
On 17 Sep 2012 at 8:54am Ducatipete wrote:
The only way to enforce a 20mph speed limit is speed bumps, flat tops etc and we all know the pain in the arse they are. They give taxi drivers some sport though.
On 19 Sep 2012 at 10:11am nosa renda wrote:
SQ you were spot on letting the old geezer get across safely,did the same myself for two ole dears and ended up with a pig ignorant women waving her arms about like a mentalist despite putting my hazards on.On the subject of Market lane its simple really make it no entry from Market street.Problem solved,hey presto.
On 19 Sep 2012 at 11:00pm JP wrote:
One general rule of road use is to give way to the right, simple enough. The UK is obsessed with road markings and that produces lazy, inattentive road users - get rid of the markings and road users will be more cautious.
Also a law originating in the 15thC gives priority to pedestrians - that law still stands.

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