On 21 Nov 2008 at 11:18am Local Town Resident wrote:
Well, as promised on Lewes Forum by various people, Cllr Peter Gardiner has been dumped in the proverbial by Council Officers, who didn't tell him that there are the boundaries of an ancient twitten behind the Lewes house site, marked by a wall. They demolished the evidence. I have checked the references, and it is bl**dy obvious.
I do feel a little sorry for Cllr Gardiner that he wasn't told this, but he should have checked himslef before he wrote such a rude letter last week, that makes him now look completely idiotic. He is too trusting of officers,, shouldn't be blindly relying on them anyway and as he won't speak to the electorate, he only has himself to blame.
I hope it is a lesson learned. and that someone in the Lib dems will explain this to him, before he does anymore damage to our beautiful town.
On 21 Nov 2008 at 1:17pm I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
I don't wish to rake over old ground but I think by now the more learn-ed of the membership that frequents this organ accept that said Cllr Peter part time Gardiner doesn't know his head from his erse.
Just a minor point but unlike you I don't feel sorry for him in the least and hope recent events haunt him.
When p/t Gardiner has moved on and is out of sight his "good works" will still remain.
On 21 Nov 2008 at 1:45pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
Week after week there are revelations about Cllr Gardiner's incompetence. So much so that now even Ben has given up rushing to his defence. His days are surely numbered.
On 21 Nov 2008 at 2:00pm Geoff wrote:
Despite my heavy criticism of Cllr 'twitten' Gardiner, I tyhink we should at least give him the benefit of explaining i he has been intentionally misleading Councillors, and getting his facts wrong about medaieval town features, or wether his has naively believed incompetent, or malpractising officers. Either way, he firmly has the custard pie in his face.
There was also a letter raising the spectre of the disappearing wall in East st car park. Cllr Gardiner might be a little more careful this time, when replying to that one. The accompanying story in the Express hasn't even got the facts right. there was no planning application, it was a lLsted Building consent (they have mad a mistake and forgotten the planning application) and it wasn't decided to demolish it at any council meeting, even though officers think it has been. The decision is made by an impartial inspector, and the planning meeting discussion was irrelevent. and has no legal validity. I am sure Merlin Milner would check that on behalf of the Town Council, who objected to the demolition, and may want to ensure that the application is considered impartially, as it should be.
On 21 Nov 2008 at 3:22pm Twitcher wrote:
If any Tories are reading this. Why on earth aren't you going in for the kill on thisone. the womans letter says it all. the council are misusing their poers to approve demolition, instead of preserving and enhancing Lewes, Seaford, and anywhere in the district. There is a gift handed to you on a plate, to expose the incompetence. get on the phobe to this woman, and get the brownie points of sorting out this cock up out. I for one won't be voting for you if you can't make anything of this. Will it take the Lib Dems to accidentally approve demolition of the Castle before you do anything? Wake Up!
On 21 Nov 2008 at 6:53pm I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
Dear God, I don't ask many favours but please don't them enhance and preserve Seaford.
ps.Twitcher. That much mocked cartoon character Clr Mathew Locke who's done to democracy and parking what Attila the Hun did for peace and goodwill is a Tory. Say no more.
On 21 Nov 2008 at 10:54pm mr happy wrote:
I dont know the background into this tale but I went to the archaeology open day during August and we were very excitingly told by the Castle staff that there was a twitten behind the library and excavation was about to begin. We were shown the site and maps of where it went from and to. Shall read more on here for background info.
On 22 Nov 2008 at 7:40pm pikelet wrote:
I was present when Mr Gardiner was first elected to the District Council. After thrilling the massed crowd outside the village hall with a touching chorus of "Don't Cry For Me Denton Island", he commenced his electoral address with the words "You now have a councillor who will be putting Ringmer first".
(Which probably wasn't much of a comfort to all the other villages in his Ouse Valley Ward - let alone Lewes)
On 24 Nov 2008 at 5:19pm Geoff wrote:
It is a shame that Cllr Peter Gardiner, and his colleagues don't show the same sort of interest as members of the public. In fact it is insulting that everyone else can get theire facts right, but Cllr Gardiner is banning colleagues from the very people with local knowledge. Of course in this case, it looks like it was an intentional attempt at pushing through a planning application that benefitted the council, which came a cropper when the Planning Commitee voted to not approve an application. The wall was right in a crucial position. I think that if Councillor Gardiner cannot demonstrate he was misled, then he should resign for misleading members of the public with his inaccurate letter to the paper.
On 26 Nov 2008 at 10:47pm S.oliver wrote:
Well that would explain why he doesn't know anything about Lewes's medieval history. (see Sussex Express this week)
On 29 Nov 2008 at 11:09am Sashka wrote:
and still doesn't. He should pop down the Maltings Archives.