On 21 Jul 2018 at 9:31am Cam wrote:
Cyclists do not contribute to air pollution. So are saving lives and NHS money. Lewes air is dreadful in places.
Cyclists are rarely obese so saving NHS money and modelling better to others.
Car drivers with this aggressive attitude are probably a danger to others psychologically.
Stop this silly silly feud and go get a life, preferably one less murderous and suicidal. Make cyclists like bed in Lewes safer. This town is shameful.
On 21 Jul 2018 at 9:41am JillG wrote:
Thanks for this sensible response, Cam. A small minority of bicyclists are discourteous (and we hate them as much as drivers do), and all the huge majority of cyclists - careful, courteous, fine to share a road with - get slammed too. We can all agree to complain about the bad ones, but please everyone, don't say 'Cyclists do this/ that'; it's not true and not fair. Thank you!
On 21 Jul 2018 at 10:33am Gus wrote:
How many cyclists have a bell on their bicycle and are courteous enough to use it to warn people of their approach? If cyclists are unpopular they often have only themselves to blame.
On 21 Jul 2018 at 12:18pm The people wrote:
Cyclists cost the NHS a lot of money through the many accidents they have.
On 21 Jul 2018 at 12:56pm JillG wrote:
Oh well, Cam, at least you tried being friendly and positive! :-/ @Gus, many cyclists have a bell and are courteous; but 'cyclists' are blamed en masse for the few bad apples, so those many cyclsts don't have themselves to blame. Please, please don't generalise about 'cyclists', my friends.
And the NHS is kept pretty busy dealing with the victims of car-driving.....
On 21 Jul 2018 at 1:26pm Local wrote:
Yeah put the cake down and get on ya bike
On 21 Jul 2018 at 1:27pm The people wrote:
Jillg, the proportion of cyclist accidents per mile are far greater than car drives and often injuries more serious.
On 21 Jul 2018 at 1:29pm Local wrote:
And how many of those accidents are at the fault of car drivers? The lion's share I'd hazard a guess
On 21 Jul 2018 at 1:39pm JillG wrote:
@The people, I was thinking as much of the pedestrians (and bicyclists) as of the drivers injured/ killed. But there are plenty of stats about everything; the government is promoting biking because among other things the net benefit to the NHS is greater.
But let's not mud-sling and try to cooperate? (I know this is a daft thing to say!)
On 21 Jul 2018 at 2:09pm Recooperate wrote:
after reading the new posts I need to re cooperate (sic
) or even recuperate.
On 21 Jul 2018 at 2:46pm Local wrote:
Indeed many more injuries of cyclists than motorists per mile, with 80% fully or partially the fault of the motorist for adult cyclists (Cycling UK stats). Cyclists are also 15x more likely to die. Don't need the NHS if you are strawberry jam!
On 21 Jul 2018 at 3:18pm Penny Farthing wrote:
Not long ago I was walking along the footpath between the Prison and Southdown Avenue when I was told to "Get out of my Fu**ing way" and pushed to the ground by a young female cyclist. I didn't have time to ask whether it would have been more polite to ring the bell on her handlebars as by the time I'd gathered my thoughts (and shopping) she's sped off towards Brighton. Thanks to her, my already jaundiced view of cyclists has now reached rock bottom. Shame on you, whoever you were.
On 21 Jul 2018 at 4:44pm Cyclist hater wrote:
It annoys me so much to see healthy people doing things that they enjoy that I make up stories about being assaulted by female cyclists to get my own back.
On 21 Jul 2018 at 4:55pm Penny Farthing wrote:
I don't hate cyclists. I used to be one before I had a stroke and have still got my cycling proficiency badge and certificate to prove it. At school, I learnt to ride my bike responsibly, obey the highway code and respect other road users. Sadly, these days, I see cyclist flouting red lights, lycra louts riding three abreast and giving two fingers to any other road user that objects. Perhaps it's a generational thing...or just a lack of good manners.
On 21 Jul 2018 at 5:09pm JillG wrote:
Yet again, 'Cyclists do this and that', and an anecdote - I'd have been as furious as you, Penny Farthing, but no-one at all ever comes onto this or any forum to mention all
the ordinary bicyclists (like me, I hope) who do the opposite
On 21 Jul 2018 at 6:29pm @Penny Farthing wrote:
Sorry. I don't believe you. I'm a pretty observant person, a motorist, cyclist, and occasional pedestrian. I've never seen any of the things you mention in person. Do you watch a lot of YouTube?
On 22 Jul 2018 at 10:38am Rosco wrote:
Courtesy and consideration for others makes everything work much better but unfortunately there are forces loose in our society that are actively working against such antique notions.
On 22 Jul 2018 at 11:59am Vasco wrote:
Yes but you need a low time preference population to achieve that and for lots of reasons ours is lurching in the other direction.
On 22 Jul 2018 at 5:58pm da Gama wrote:
Low time preference ? Speakski Orwellian ?
On 23 Jul 2018 at 7:20am Commuter wrote:
Cyclists DO cause pollution. It comes from all the vehicles travelling behind, in low gear. Containing people for whom it is not practical to cycle, travelling longer distances to work or delivering goods.
Cycles and horses were practical transport a hundred years ago, when society was different. Not now.
On 23 Jul 2018 at 10:39am JillG wrote:
Well, I could drive a car instead and join the rush-hour queues, I suppose.
On 23 Jul 2018 at 10:50am Observer wrote:
I love people's reasoning
Motorist behaving badly - that person is an idiot, who happens to be in a car
Cyclist behaving badly - all cyclists are idiots
"Cycles and horses were practical transport a hundred years ago, when society was different."
Go to Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Berlin. Look at how prevalent cycles are everywhere, ,and cycle facilities
Then come back to the UK.
Then ask yourself which country is more modern, advanced and healthy.
On 23 Jul 2018 at 12:30pm JillG wrote:
Well done, @Observer: bicycling is definitely key transport (and health improvement) in the 21st century where we're only just realising the damage done to the environment by vehicles; the Government is putting large funds into programmes for increasing cycling.
On 23 Jul 2018 at 2:37pm Rory wrote:
Electric bikes are a game changer. Good ones are pricey at the moment but there will soon be cheaper,high quality versions.
It makes commuting 5-10 miles realistic for more people as you can carry more luggage as well without getting hot and sweaty. It's not cheating! You still get exercise and fewer cars on the road.