On 15 Feb 2011 at 10:00am MC wrote:
This morning The East Sussex Imperial Federation despatched a number of jack-booted parking attendants to teach the unruly Barcombe peasants a lesson and quell any thoughts of rebellion or sedition.
The attack was timed to cause maximum disruption; 8.30am, whilst the adults were massed in the centre delivering their young charges to the Rebel Training Centre.
Panic ensued causing Personal Transporters to be reversed wildly up the central highway in a vain attempt to avoid the approaching invaders and ensuing harsh penalties, scattering Village Elders and causing mayhem and near injury to those too slow or infirm to react with sufficient alacrity.
Very young rebel offspring were left to find their own way to the Rebel Training Centre, risking abduction by the ever-present Kid-Nappers and Those-That-Like-To-Do-Bad-Things-To-Small-Children as their panicked guardians rushed back to secure their vehicles.
The entrance to the Community Docking Station quickly became blocked as villagers attempted to move their Personal Transporters into it and away from the areas controlled by the blue-clad stormtroopers. Councillor Pear reasoned with the stoney-faced enemy whilst younger rebel bucks accused them of breaking recent amnesties (and other hateful atrocities). Missives were sent directly to the Federation Overlords by one particularly incensed River Dweller (and administrator of local house of ill-repute).
Eventually the invaders were despatched back to Lewes Central Command leaving the rebels to contest the fines, tend the wounded and plot the coming rebellion.
On 15 Feb 2011 at 10:26am Ed Can Do wrote:
It's a trap!
Begin evasive manouvers, launch the X-Trail fighters!
On 15 Feb 2011 at 11:36am tizzs wrote:
Its about time we all stopped going along with this parking nonsense.and just get it sorted out .aren't the council ment to work for us, i blame us for putting up with it . . .
On 15 Feb 2011 at 12:18pm Mr Forks wrote:
Why is it Lewes residents feel they are above the law in relation to parking matters. Other towns have parking schemes as well you know?! Is it sheer snobbery by a lazy majority who don't know the joys of a brisk walk into town?!
On 15 Feb 2011 at 12:27pm Barking Parking wrote:
If Barcombe Freedom Fighters were simply 'alighting' their children for school, then issued tickets are invalid. Take a look at the regulations, and consult with ESCC who lost a Parking Tribunal on this basis.
So much for Morman Bakers 'pledge' that Barcombe would be treated differently with a 'light touch' as claimed a while back.
Oh, and Mr Forks, isn't Barcombe in...um....Barcombe, not Lewes.
On 15 Feb 2011 at 12:32pm Mr Forks wrote:
Isn't it in Lewes District??!!
On 15 Feb 2011 at 12:42pm Mystic Mog wrote:
Mr F. The enforcement is what is really being discussed and is over the top for a village like Barcombe.
On 15 Feb 2011 at 12:44pm Mr Forks wrote:
Are you then saying that its ok for people to have parking restrictions in Lewes but not in other towns/villages? Oh dear, so many mixed messages!
On 15 Feb 2011 at 12:47pm tizzs wrote:
do i feel above the law .. No, but i would like to see it sorted out ,its not about walking. your mising the point .its just not working that well ,maybe you can walk into town and sort it mr forks! try not to use gunpowder this time that would be against the law (the speed you walk is up to you)
On 15 Feb 2011 at 1:14pm Mystic Mog wrote:
New parking restrictions in Barcombe were introduced with the scheme and with the current enforcement policy driven by ESCC they do not properly take in to account of how a village like Barcombe works.
If restrctions are introduced they should provide the correct balance between, safety, reducing congestion, allowing resident to park easily and for commerce and schools to function. The balance is wrong in Barcombe as it is in Lewes.
The restrictions need to be appropriate and enforced sensibly. Mr Forks if you disagree with this then you must be Cllr. Locke
On 15 Feb 2011 at 1:17pm Barking Parking wrote:
Mr Forks, a nice attempt at spin, with the Barcombe is part of Lewes District thing, but why don't you just laugh about the fact you didn't read the thread properly.
Barcombe is not a town, so a brisk walk, would involve some kind of record breaking walking speed!
Anyway, Lewes District residents aren't above the law, but East Sussex County Council and its contractor seem to think they are. That is the point you don't seem to understand.
On 15 Feb 2011 at 1:29pm Mr Forks wrote:
I understand clearly, its just you parking fixated types dont realise how inadvertantly hilarious and hypocritical you all are! Still, carry on..................
On 15 Feb 2011 at 1:59pm tizzs wrote:
who wants a walking race barcombe to lewes......we can call each other names on the way too if you want. OR sort out the parking on the way,but am i being inadvertantly hilarious and hypocritical
On 15 Feb 2011 at 6:18pm Mr Forks wrote:
Ok your on
On 16 Feb 2011 at 10:26am tizzs wrote:
you would win you know bigger words than me
On 16 Feb 2011 at 11:30am C.R.A P.S wrote:
Campaign to Replace Appalling Parking Scheme.
Tizz, he wouldn't win because he would be weighed down with gunpowder barrels and the plate of chips on his shoulder.
At least we all know the difference between a village and a town. When you are in a hole, Mr Forks don't keep digging or the knives come out. :-)
It always makes me laugh when people rant on that Lewes people are obsessed with parking problems for no reason. Why would anyone chose this as a hobby? Just take a look at ESCC's own statistics on their website , they show Lewes CPZ as still losing money after 5 yeaars, (the other ones are raking in cash) and issuing the most tickets that are cancelled. Guess which poor town residents are not only paying for this debacle with tax money, and their sanity, but are also having to do all the paperwork to avoid fines that even ESCC agree must be cancelled. For numerous geographical, and historical reasons Lewes is a round parking peg, that has been unsuccessfully rammed into a square parking scheme hole.
Thinking the scheme is a pile of old pants, doesn't mean you are against any scheme. When I see a turd, I call it a turd.
I suspect Mr Forks is one of those people who are good at criticising others when it doesn't affect him, but is the first to moan when it does.
On 16 Feb 2011 at 12:25pm 'ere be monsters wrote:
What a strange post, craps, turds' holes, plates of chips and digging with knives?
On 16 Feb 2011 at 1:00pm Mr Forks wrote:
A very descriptive post I feel. Wasn't aware I was in a hole but hey ho, explains why it's dark in hear I suppose!
To be fair if people are so appalled by the scheme then instead of moaning on a forum and taking part in a pointless consultation exercise, try direct action? All drivers should park in every available space in Lewes on a saturday and not get out of their car fior at least an hour, I beleive they can't issue a ticket if your waiting in the vehicle (I could be wrong, and will no doubt be corrected if I am). This would at least be more productive then whingeing!
On 16 Feb 2011 at 1:58pm 'ere be monsters wrote:
Perhaps one of the points that should be addressed in the "public consultation" is the lack of advertising the rules and regulations of the parking scheme in layman's language. As you say there Forks "I beleive they can't issue a ticket if your waiting in the vehicle", who knows? Who is willing to tell you. The Parking Shop are always reluctant to discuss such matters. In an earlier thread the markings of bays was said to be wrong. I've heard that if a machine is broken and the only available one nearby is the other side of the road then they can't force you to buy a ticket from that machine. These may all be urban mythes, however, the ESCC and parking wardens are not enthusiastic to make the situation clear as confusion makes for more penalty notices. As with the beginning of this thread, the wardens do not operate the same everywhere. When was the last time you saw them booking cars bumped up on the pavement in Fisher Street waiting for takeaways, yet stop for a couple of minutes out in the country and a penalty ticket is slapped on.
Now you've got me started!!!!!!!!!!!
On 17 Feb 2011 at 8:35am Vain driver wrote:
I've been driving for over 30 years and never had a parking ticket. I can never understand the arguments here. Park legal. Simple! No tickets applied means no revenue to the council which means no money to pay the wardens which means no parking scheme. Get a grip you fools!
On 17 Feb 2011 at 9:09am 'ere be monsters wrote:
Perhaps the point the point being made, Vain, is that it is almost as if the wardens "invent" methods and situations that boost their penalty ticket count.
Also if you've been driving for 30 years then you ought to stop and have a rest. Not on double yellows though,
On 17 Feb 2011 at 9:45am Vain driver wrote:
Your word 'almost' being the point!. Anyway, I tried having a kip, but all my passengers kept me awake by their screaming.
On 17 Feb 2011 at 10:11am Penguin wrote:
Vain Driver, it is not so much an argument about individuals parking legally or illegally, more an argument about the fact that so many previously legal parking spaces have been made into illegal ones. For instance, many people now have to pay to park outside their own house, where before they could do so for free, and if you were just popping into a shop for 5 minutes you could park outside for free if there was a space available. You don't get the option to pay for just 5 minutes either, so end up paying for half an hour that you are never going to use.
Your logic that parking legally will eventually mean no parking restrictions is fine, but that would simply put us back to where we were before they were imposed, ie a situation, where you admit yourself, that there would be no need for a parking scheme! Doesn't that just underline what a completely unnecessary waste of time and money the whole thing is?
On 17 Feb 2011 at 11:22am 'ere be monsters wrote:
It would be interesting to see if, in ESCC's original estimates for the running of the scheme, just taking parking charges and permit charges would cover the running of the scheme. If not were they relying on making penalty charges take up the shortfall, or should the charges have been higher to start with? The charges have gone up way above inflation since the start.
Parking legally would not mean the end of the scheme, it wasn't illegal parking that caused the scheme in the first place, it was introduced, allegedly, to deter drivers from bringing their cars into Lewes and use public transport instead. That worked then. The scheme is here to stay, it just needs to be fairer to residents, less harshly enforced and the "rules of engagement" between parkers and wardens clearer.