On 11 Dec 2015 at 11:04am Bridge Builder wrote:
Now Santon / Lewes have planning consent they will soon put in place their plans to clear Phase 1 around the Phoenix Place area. So the current businesses and artists will need to consider where they are going to move to. The leases are up by the end of March 2016.
Wouldn't it be great if Santon, Lewes DC, the Lewes Community Land Trust and Phoenix Rising could build some bridges and work together to get the viable businesses and artists relocated. Preferably in premises that enable their business activities to thrive?
On 11 Dec 2015 at 11:31am Belladonna wrote:
Yes, it would.
On 11 Dec 2015 at 11:43am Ros wrote:
Yay! I'm from Lewes Community Land Trust - when can we start Santon and Phoenix Rising? Now or 4th January?
On 11 Dec 2015 at 12:32pm Convenient wrote:
@Bridge builder great idea , who decides on the viability of a business ? Surely a viable business is one that can pay a typical market rent and therefore be in the same position as any other business who needs to relocate and is looking for premises .
On 11 Dec 2015 at 1:41pm in the know2 wrote:
convenient, you are forgetting that ALL business starts small, then grows-where is it supposed to start from?
when it comes to who says what is viable-LDC decided that-and that attitude stinks.
On 11 Dec 2015 at 1:54pm Ros wrote:
We want also want to support social enterprises to relocate when the time comes- like Starfush, Community Chef, etc. They're in Phase 2. We are starting to explore some ideas, nothing at all definite yet.
Key thing is to get people together and talking now that the planning application can go ahead subject to detail and the S106.
So let's talk.
On 11 Dec 2015 at 3:47pm bastian wrote:
Sounds like the drains are going to stink to-southern water wont' touich the sewage from the site, because Santon didn't listen to them when they said you can't build over the victorian drains.
On 11 Dec 2015 at 6:13pm Convenient wrote:
@Bastian good on you , still thinking there'll be a reason it doesn't happen , no one's going to be sympathetic to anyone down there unless they take their departure with good grace ... had it easy , times up .
On 11 Dec 2015 at 7:40pm Ros wrote:
Hi Bastian, your comments about sewers are inaccurate. As I'd read within the planning application and as we heard at the Hearing yesterday, this new development will not have combined sewers (foul and rain water run-off mixed together) as does the rest of the town. Where rain falls on the proposed green roofs and garden areas it will in due course percolate through the ground or evaporate off. Santon / Lewes propose substantially more green space than exists on site at present. The rain that falls on the paved areas will eventually flow into the river uncontaminated by sewage and some of the proposed pavings are porous again to allow the ran to percolate into the soil. The Southern Water's system will only be required to take actual sewage and of course they will have to approve the details. Don't forget the mammoth sewer they build after the 2000 storms also runs through the site.
On 12 Dec 2015 at 9:16am bastian wrote:
Did you actually read the bit about building OVER the old drains- and Southern Water refusing to allow it.
by the way, soak away is great until you get the twice century deluge that Lewes suffers.
On 12 Dec 2015 at 9:52am lewes wrote:
Bastian: it can't be done, it's difficult, they shouldn't, they mustn't. What a moaner you are: whinge whinge whinge.
This development will now be built regardless of the drainage issues which will be resolved during the build. Why don't you concentrate on positivity and wonder in optimism!
On 12 Dec 2015 at 10:27am Ros wrote:
And there will be storm water storage built on site for the kind of episodes Bastian is talking about.
On 12 Dec 2015 at 10:32am Ros wrote:
As we heard at the planning hearing, Santon's engineers will negotiate licenses with Southern Water to build over the sewers. This is normal practice in brownfield regeneration schemes.
On 12 Dec 2015 at 2:45pm bastian wrote:
to Ros and Lewes, I hope you enjoy livin ginyour £100000000 river frontage homes on the new estate. Was that positive enoughfor you?
On 12 Dec 2015 at 3:27pm LTLR wrote:
I list a number of hall the Dance Academy make like to contact to see if they can hire a room or two.YMCA- New School - Town Hall -Catholic Church Hall
St Marys Hall -Highdown Road Hall - Cliffe Church Hall - Malling Community Centre.Subud House and there are a lot of School Halls.
On 12 Dec 2015 at 5:46pm amy wrote:
didn't they use to be at the Malling Community Centre or was that a different outfit?
On 13 Dec 2015 at 11:48pm little wren wrote:
Sweetly naive, Ros. The tiny drips of rain we get will bounce off the green roofs and percolate through the ground. How does rain percolate through concrete? And the storm water storage, what a marvellous idea, I expect Carlisle wished they had them, they would have stored all the water that rushed in from the river. How big are these tanks? Ros, I'm guessing you are our out of touch councillor are you? The only thing you contributed to the so called debate/stitch up was how delightful we were getting a new bridge. You gave no support to the hundreds of people who are set to lose their jobs and no mention of the children who have lost their venues. Hang on a minute, the kids could learn water polo in the storm tanks, skateboard over the new bridge, play croquet on the green roofs.