On 4 Aug 2008 at 8:50pm BurntheDFLS wrote:
Is it me or have all the Nimbys recently moved here, it seems once the Londoners have moved into town they don't want anyone else to get the chance, bring on the housing crash, see them all squirm then, they'll probably then have to sell one of there 4x4's to buy organic milk!
On 4 Aug 2008 at 9:57pm Spinster Of This Parish wrote:
If ever there was an inappropriate American expression in this country, it is "NIMBY".
There are some people who are prolific complainers, but there are many who are genuinely concerned about this town and are forced* to complain about overdevelopment and insensitive architecture in order to preserve and enhance this town for future generations.
*Forced as the Councillors and Council Officers seem to be hell bent on approving any powder coated steel & timber clad monstrosity in the name of progress.
I imagine that the people who care about this town (and make most of the objections) are actually established residents and not the DFL's.
But the DFL's are intolerant and trying to change the town to resemble wherever they came from. I doubt the Lewes-Uckfield train link will go ahead, but we may get an extension of the Jubilee Line!
On 4 Aug 2008 at 10:38pm Sashka wrote:
so, 'burnthe dfl's' do you want to stop 'people from london' from moving here, because once here they want to stop other people from moving here.?
there isn't exactly a rush of so-called DFL's buying into 'the nuseries' and 'the printworks'
isn't it funny that these developers keep naming overdevelopments after the workplaces they have displaced, and that we have now lost.
On 4 Aug 2008 at 10:53pm Ben wrote:
Spinster, I'm a DFL. I care about the town. I moved down last year from south-east London, and I can promise you I'm not trying to introduce any fried chicken restaurants, nail parlours or on-street executions.
NIMBY and DFL have one thing in common: they're both lazy, generalised acronyms.
On 4 Aug 2008 at 11:12pm Spinster Of This Parish wrote:
I'm not a DFL, but I am not a Lewesian.
As far as I'm concerned, if you embrace this town, this town enbraces you.
On 5 Aug 2008 at 7:53am frak wrote:
Well said ben. It seems that if you aren't that bothered about burning stuff and don't live on landport you're a dfl. And if you like burning stuff and would rather have a bus station than an m&s then you are a nimby. I must say that i liked the unintentional irony in the original post.
On 5 Aug 2008 at 9:31am BurntheDFLS wrote:
Anyone moving here should be made to answer exam questions on the history of Lewes and local traditions, they should also then either take part in or shut up about local traditions. Also properties for sale or rent should only be available to people within a 10 mile radius at first before then being available on the local market.
And another thing, the Lewes pound is surely a DFL invention, what a poncy idea, "i know Tarquin lets move down to quaint old Lewes and introduce our own currency and turn it into a real life model village, then we can tell all our Islington buddies about it, and get them down for a weekend to spend the Lewes pound in Bills, Adamcewski, Wickle etc" can't these people just move to the west country like they used to 10 years ago and leave us true Lewesians alone without trying to poncify our town?!
On 5 Aug 2008 at 9:55am Ben wrote:
I think anyone who takes the decision to move to Lewes from anywhere else has embraced it, surely? For my part, I embrace the Lewes that has evolved its unique character over several millenia, and the Lewes that will keep evolving into the future. "Preserving and enhancing" shouldn't mean wrapping in cotton wool. Renewal, expansion, and architecture that was always of its time, are all part of Lewes' character.
On 5 Aug 2008 at 10:04am Ben wrote:
"'Tis the business of little minds to shrink." - Thomas Paine
On 5 Aug 2008 at 12:09pm Brolly Dolly wrote:
BurntheDFLS, I could have written your post. Well done, so true.
On 5 Aug 2008 at 12:30pm Taff wrote:
Its the rate of change that is the problem Ben. Hastened by those who want to recreate what they left behind to come to Lewes.
I have been here 38 years now and the town has changed very much indeed in that time but recently it seems to have accelerated and looks very much uncontrolled.
Probably only two thirds the shops in number remain. Priced out by the rates rate! Council income lost so they have to get it from somewhere and it seems anywhere and anyhow will do.
From what the council gives back to the residents I wonder why we bother to pay the council tax?
On 5 Aug 2008 at 10:15pm wellwell wrote:
Ive read your stuff in the Cliffe Clarion DFLS before and you're spot on.
On 6 Aug 2008 at 12:56pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
BurntheDFLS - If you've always been living in Lewes why did you let the council make such a mess of it in the 60s and 70s. You should be ashamed of yourself. And not criticise people who seem to be trying to stop the council doing it again.
On 6 Aug 2008 at 6:45pm btdfls wrote:
probably coz i wasn't born 'till 78! I can't do a "Back to the future"
On 6 Aug 2008 at 6:59pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
btdfls - I wonder how well you'd do on the compulsory questions on the history of Lewes and its traditions then. You don't seem to care very much about preserving them as far as possible.
On 6 Aug 2008 at 7:25pm btdfls wrote:
We should look after the town we have, while looking ahead to the future. Lewes has always been a progressive town in flux. But that doesn't mean new ugly buildings nor no development ever. Development of it's time, if done well, has the potential to enhance our town. (Of course it could always just look sh*t!)
And as for preserving traditions i definately think police and anyone from outside Lewes should be banned from bonfire (unless taking an active part) and Dwyle flunking and Toad in the hole should be taught at Lewes schools and RE at the Jireh Chapel.
On 7 Aug 2008 at 12:50am X wrote:
I think we should cover Lewes in amber and let it set so nothing can ever, ever change again and no one can get in. It'll be great if we can freeze the town as it is forever - no jobs, no future, no population sounds like bliss
On 7 Aug 2008 at 6:12am expat two wrote:
Before you start knocking new buildings, something needs to be done to the appaling council offices up in St Anne's. Who hasn't driven past Lewes on the A27 and cringed? It reminds me of that Banksy print of the Haywain with a dumped supermarket trolley in it. And let's not forget the Landport Estate is an eyesore too.
On 7 Aug 2008 at 9:24am Ben wrote:
Brutalist buildings are out of fashion at the moment, but I think it's not a bad building in itself. If all big, lumpy, overbearing buildings in beautiful settings should be demolished, then the castle has got to go as well. Now there's an ugly building.
On 7 Aug 2008 at 9:27am Lewes Laugher wrote:
btdfls - Well, I think we agree so this has certainly been a worthwhile exchange.
On 7 Aug 2008 at 11:46am juju wrote:
Wow Expat two, dont go picking on Landport there are far worse places to be, try Ousedale for example!!!