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On 6 Nov 2014 at 12:08am Dizzydi wrote:
I am saddened to hear about the removal of Waterloos' effigy.
Lewes Bonfire display compassion for the protestant martyrs burnt and have always acknowledged the sacrifices made by many of our kinsfolk lost in all wars. As a child I have seen many public figures, i.e. Idi Amin, Gadaffi, Margaret Thatcher to name a few trawled through the streets and taken to the sites to be 'blown up'. The reason they are chosen is for topical reasons, nothing personal. When asking my parents 'What, why?' they would explain what the tableau represented and why it was chosen. These tableaus are moving headlines and have a connection with 'joe public'. The choice of Waterloo was topical, not personal. Let's try and put things back into perspective.
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 12:35am Karen wrote:
Explain why it's not personal ? Scotland have taken this very personally why wouldn't they, this is an effigy of our first minister and Nessie one of Scotland's top tourist attractions going to be burnt , thankfully not. We love our country and Westminster have stolen our freedom from us we only want what is rightfully ours, Independence x
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 12:57am dizzydi wrote:
Because they are not related in anyway. Did you worry when Maggie went up in flames? Everyone still believes in Nessy. Do not look too deep.
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 1:43am Ed Can Do wrote:
Obvious troll is obvious.

Karen is clearly someone on the windup, why are people replying to "Her"?
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 3:24am RedandWhite wrote:
Salmond is a typical self-serving politician, a sort of Farage figure, except he takes himself seriously. Threw his toys out of the pram and went off in a huff immediately he didn't get his own way. Can't think of a better target for Waterloo, though shocked they chickened out of burning him.
Pity they didn't choose Farage. However, I feel he'd have taken it good part and played to the gallery as usual.
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 7:08am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I was a bit gobsmacked they withdrew the tab. What happened to "We wunt be druv"?
At this rate, all the societies will have to submit their tableau designs to some committee of the humourless and professionally outraged before going ahead.
And what on earth does a society do with a fully-fused up tab that isn't going to be used? You can hardly take it down the tip.
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 7:44am Landporter wrote:
Pathetic over reaction. Never ever known such shyte from a pathetic few people. If you don't like it, Łuck off back to Scotland. Some members of Waterloo had death threats over this and had to have police outside their houses.
Im not a member of any society but i really hope that all those associated with bonfire, rally round and the 5th goes from strength to strength in Lewes.
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 7:44am Zzz.. wrote:
They withdrew it! That is not in the spirit of bonfire. What a sad little world we live in when the PC brigade can have such a censorus effect. We deserve UKIP.
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 7:48am Landporter wrote:
The police ordered them to withdraw it as they'd received a complaint.
Un-Łu(king-believable
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 8:10am w boyd wrote:
Nessie is a yesssie
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 8:23am Earl of Lewes wrote:
This is supposed to be a democracy. We'll have to burn it now.
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 8:38am Ian wrote:
Karen, we didn't steal your independence - you sold it!! For a few quid. You sold out your own nation and have been blaming everyone else ever since. You had a vote, you lost - get over it. Not enough people fell for Kim Och Aye II's propaganda. Did you complain about the image in the link below? Or are you proud of your countrymen for burning the flag that so many Scots died for? As always, you seem to want one rule for yourselves and one rule for everyone else. If you hate the English so much have a vote and gain your independence! - Oh sorry, you tried that didn't you.

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On 6 Nov 2014 at 11:37am padster wrote:
Fools, Fools, you Fools.
It still amazes me this delusions of grandeur that bonfire folk display, i've given up trying to educate your simple minds to the fact that "No Popery" is a reference to those of a catholic faith. Why would you burn Alex Salmond, representing the major party north of the border, a referendum against independence still does not undermine the trust and good work the scottish people see in him and his party.
Your just a bunch of swiveled eyed Presbyterian fools, do us all a favour and blow yourselves up next year.
I think all the celtic nations would love to cut themselves free from the inbred fighting english.
Call me a troll but it's the truth.
ps scotland missed out on independence due to all the english who live there voting against, probably.
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 1:49pm Ian wrote:
Steady on there padster old girl. You're going to do yourself a mischief! Take a deep breath and relax - nice and deep now, in through the nose and out through the mouth. There you go, I hope you're feeling better now (note the correct use of you're) it's You're just a bunch of swiveled eyed Presbyterian fools please. Not 'your'. And can we have nouns (that's a naming word) with capitals please (that's a big letter) as in English, rather than english. And "Why would you burn Alex Salmond" is a question, so should be followed by a question mark. (That's a wavy thing that looks like this ?) We may indeed be a bunch of swiveled (sic) eyed Presbyterian fools. However, we're clearly much further along the evolutionary road than you. Scary thought eh, especially for one so pompous as to think WE'RE the ones that need educating?
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 2:21pm Guido wrote:
Another huge nail in the bonfire coffin and very welcome too. It's high time this outdated racist embarrassing spectacle was put to rest permanently.
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 3:24pm Depressed Gardener wrote:
There will always be Bonfire celebrations in Lewes because we are Lewesians and we believe in our rights and traditions. We won't be druv.
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 4:17pm trooper wrote:
"Padster" You have given up on trying to educucate our simple minds, may I enquire as to who gave you the right to think that we need educating and why you ??
Your final comment is total ignorant nonsense,you were not there in Scotland I was.There is a very pertinant saying for you "Make sure you have brain in gear before opening mouth"
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 11:22pm Donna wrote:
It was racist and offensive and people can say that it is a Msp not the country.
But do people not see that we see it as a symbol of Scotland, why include Nessie.
This is too close to the event and things are very raw so not the right time.
If I burn a huge image of Saint George, English people would be up in arms.
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 11:26pm Saint George wrote:
Donna: If it was part of a traditional celebration then no we wouldn't.
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On 6 Nov 2014 at 11:50pm wrote:
Landporter - wrong. The Police made it very clear that they left the decision with the two Societies.
I think CS made the correct decision - just in case one of the cretins who were getting overheated was in town and mad enough to do something dangerous to the tab that could have endangered the normal watching public. But simply took it to the site and blew it up as planned.
Good call, IMHO.
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On 7 Nov 2014 at 8:44am Ian wrote:
Donna, the effigy was of an individual, the Nessie was there so that the less well informed could work out who it was. Would you rather we used the Saltire, Edinburgh Castle or the Tennents brewery to the draw attention to the fact that it was that Scottish chap off the telly?
For your info, Lord Nelson, wounded british soldiers, The houses of Parliment, every British PM since God knows when, every US president for the last 30+ years, Steve Irwin and countless other persons in the news have been included in tableaus, because it's not about hate. It is a reflection of current affairs. If appropriate I have no doubt that St George could be included in a tab, and there wouldn't be the wailling hysteria that's currently emulating from north of the border.
If you want to talk true racism and hate, let's talk burning flags shall we? The Scots have plenty of form there of course. For years the English have had to put up with Scottish vitriol and we're sick of it. Please see a fine example of your fellow countrymen at the link below. A quick google search reveals many such images. Did you complain about them? No, I thought not. As always the Scots have a very blinkered view of the world. I bet you're very proud of these people.

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On 7 Nov 2014 at 7:57pm padster wrote:
trooper, I'll say what i want.
Ian, if you spoke to me like that to my face i would rearrange yours.
Oh dear every year lewes show what isolated sectarian inbred s they are, WTF does druv mean? who the Fcuk cares. choke on your, ( correct use of your) harveys and your politics.
 
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On 7 Nov 2014 at 8:05pm An Englishman wrote:
Padster I actually agree with you.
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On 7 Nov 2014 at 11:13pm Bonfur wrote:
Padster, you can't educate people until you yourself are educated.

t[Capital T]rooper, I'll say what i want.
Ian, if you spoke to me like that to my face i[Capital I] would rearrange yours.
Oh dear[Comma] every year l[Capital L]ewes show what isolated sectarian inbred [No space needed]s they are,[Semi-colon] WTF does [Speechmarks]druv[Speechmarks] mean? w[Capital W]ho the F[Lowercase F]cuk cares.[Question mark] c[Capital C]hoke on your, ( [No space needed]c[Capital C]orrect use of your) h[Capital H]arveys and your politics.[Exclamation mark!]
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On 8 Nov 2014 at 5:49pm Ian wrote:
Now now padster, there's no need to resort to threats of violence because you've been made to look a little lacking after yourself after questioning everyone else's intelligence. If you can't take it, you shouldn't dish it out love x. And I'm afraid I'll have to correct you again. You should have said "I'd TRY to rearrange your face" unfortunately, unless you're exceptionally handy, I would expect that it would be the last thing you would do. You're a keyboard warrior not the ultimate warrior.
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On 8 Nov 2014 at 10:39pm the kronic wrote:
Padster... back to your pond matey.
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On 9 Nov 2014 at 1:00am Henry wrote:
Padster I suspect drinking and driving a keyboard is a little beyond your skill level.
 
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On 9 Nov 2014 at 8:53am padster wrote:
This is not an english exam. Nor is it a designed to test grammar. It exists to allow people rant and rave and to be honest a dropped capital here and missed comma there means little, other than you have no rational argument against mine. You do have a natural ability at ptrionising comments probably because of your , as i said earlier, delusions of grandeur and self importance.
My posts are meant to generate a response, i have succeeded and so i have achieved which i set out to do. No i cannot be bothered to capitalise my I's, get over it.
Kronic please don't call me matey it sends a shiver down my spine that i would ever be "matey" with you .
 
 
On 10 Nov 2014 at 3:09pm padsteraddyc1973@hotmail wrote:
i do not capitalise english out of choice. Why, does ian think rearrange your face means violence? i simply would re do your make up to make you look presentable to the opposite sex or should i say bitch.
 
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On 10 Nov 2014 at 11:19pm AF wrote:
I believe there is enough evidence here to report 'padster' for threatening violence and sexism!
I'm quite happy to do so.
 
 
On 11 Nov 2014 at 5:49am the kronic wrote:
Leave it out, AF. More over sensitivity. I don't particularly like the poster but to report him/her ?
Pathetic


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