On 22 Aug 2018 at 11:48pm Merde Alors! wrote:
Remember the Beleavers telling us that a weak pound would be good for exports? WRONG! British manufacturing output slips to ninth globally behind France.
Data shows sector starved of investment and losing ground as Brexit uncertainty persists
Check it out here »
On 23 Aug 2018 at 6:40am Mr jolly wrote:
9th in the whole world isn't that shabby though. Pretty good actually.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 7:30am @mr jolly wrote:
A race to the bottom eh? Optimistic or deluded?
On 23 Aug 2018 at 7:32am Old news wrote:
It's the same as fake news. How about comparing employment figures.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 7:45am Mark wrote:
I'm not Jolly about it. Unemployment is low because of the gig economy. McJobs. Zero hour contracts... etc. That our exports and productivity are on this trajectory at a time when the pound is at such a low rate is pretty disastrous. How would we be doing if the Euro was still at 0.70p? It's proof if it's needed that Project Fear was nothing of the sort. It was just people making fairly reasonable predictions.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 7:48am Mark wrote:
Having a job in France, Germany, Italy is a whole different kettle of fish to having a fake job in the UK.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 7:54am but wrote:
Having a French job in agriculture is a fake job. Having a job in Italy and Greece is almost unheard of.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 9:34am silversurf wrote:
I'm sure the Greeks, Spanish, Portuguese and others would love our Gig economy. It's definitely better than being unemployed or on benefits.
Are you aware of the unemployment rates in these countries?
Whilst not ideal, I'd suggest the people on zero hour contacts would prefer them to being unemployed and have no work at all.
I've recently been down to Cornwall for the summer. There were plenty of school leavers (just competed GCSEs) selling pasties and coffee on the beaches. They were making £80 - £150 a day!
They weren't sitting on their backsides waiting for a political party to give them a job on the national minimum wage.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 10:22am @silversurf wrote:
The problem that you fail to acknowledge Silversurf is that people aren't escaping the poverty trap through the gig-economy.
Victorian style job creation is on the increase & there is no sign of this style of employment abating any time soon. More 'Just about managing' families are slipping into these shoddy jobs, with very little chance (absolutely none in many areas) of escaping this poverty creating trap.
Money is being syphoned from the top in this country, it's wealth going abroad.
People can't afford decent homes; never mind the pension, free education &
and the welfare state that has supported you all through your life. You'll be pleased to know that as you get closer to death, you've left the world a poorer place.
I admire those industrious pasty sellers of the South West but again are you trying to gloss over the massive poverty, housing & unemployment problems in Cornwall? What are they all going to do when the tourists go home in the next couple of weeks? What's the next big plan?
On 23 Aug 2018 at 11:00am Mark wrote:
Blimey! That's good money for selling pasties! I wonder why the Spanish and Portuguese kids don't just start selling pasties? Perhaps they haven't yet heard the news from Cornwall.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 11:07am silversurf wrote:
... "people aren't escaping the poverty trap" ...
Seriously - all people in the gig economy are in poverty???
You personally may not like the gig economy or zero hour contracts but don't play the poverty card and paint it all black.
Get real. A lot of people do really well out of the gig economy and enjoy the flexibility it offers. They work hard for a period and then take some time off. E.g. to travel or spend time with family.
Just because some low paid earners on zero hour contracts are feeling the pinch, don't assume they all are. They are not.
A lot of young people use these jobs to get experience and move around without lengthy notice periods.
There are a lot of benefits too.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 11:34am silversurf wrote:
And let's face it here is no such thing as poverty in this country, only the work shy and the feckless lying in bed all day watching porn on their wide screen TVs having sex with multiple partners, stuffing themselves with pizzas, a fag in one hand a beer in the other pretending to be mentally ill or depressed whilst living the life of riley on very generous benefits provided by hard working mugs like me. They should all be sent to work camps and made to till the fields and break rocks.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 11:46am silversurf wrote:
The real silversurf didn't write that second post. Whoever did is a coward
On 23 Aug 2018 at 11:51am minion wrote:
@silversurf Despicable you.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 11:55am silversurf wrote:
I'm out. There's no point posting if things like this go on.
All the best.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 11:59am Townshend wrote:
"I hope I die before I get old."
On 23 Aug 2018 at 12:14pm Steve wrote:
I'm sat in the job senter on mountfield rd. They've got the forum on these computers. Are any of you fellas in e're?
Not many jobs worth doing in Lewes.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 1:29pm silversmirk wrote:
Some people are born to be leaders and some are born to be lead.
Keep biting the hand that feeds you and you'll soon find it will no longer.
Have a good day plebs.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 1:56pm Dexter wrote:
So SIlversurf, did you straw poll all those beach vendors to get an accurate figure for their income & earnings?
Did you check to see if they had the appropriate licensing to sell food & drink from the council?
Were they taking money from honest tax paying business' on the beach-front?
Did they have Department of Health permits, Food Hygiene Rating?
If they were foreigners selling stuff on the beach, would you consider them nuisance beach vendors?
Are you really that blind that you don't see the poverty in this country?
Will you recognise there is a problem when the ever increasing number of homeless people in this country are living in favelas (looked under any bridges lately)?
Is that your 'gold standard' mark of poverty?
You say 'A lot of people do really well out of the gig economy'; are you aware that every class in society with the exception of the super rich are getting poorer? Not only that, the middle classes around the world are contracting and they're not joining the rnaks of the super rich are they? (Bank of England & OECD reports 'the squeezed middle classes').
Maybe they need to work harder?
What are your thoughts on Conservative cabinet minister Owen Patterson suggestion that pensioners can pick fruit in order to claim their state pension & reduce immigration?
To think you baby-boomers included the hippy peace and love generation.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 2:15pm GINNY wrote:
I expect he's laughing too hard to reply.
Food hygiene ratings and favelas?
He probably paid them cash too. Oh the shame!
On 23 Aug 2018 at 2:18pm silversurf wrote:
There is no poverty in this country only laziness.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 2:27pm silversurf wrote:
A lot of impersonation too. Tosser
On 23 Aug 2018 at 3:06pm silversurf wrote:
The so called poor and their Corbynite supporters can kiss my rear end.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 3:34pm silversurf wrote:
So can you... pucker up
On 23 Aug 2018 at 5:54pm Silverskin wrote:
Born to be leaders and born to be led. And born to be a knob.
On 23 Aug 2018 at 7:56pm silverforeskin wrote:
And some were born to be Labour supporters.
Don't be so hard on yourself Silverskin. You were born that way.