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On 6 Sep 2016 at 8:16am resident wrote:
Congratulations to local Labourites for putting on such a great sold out gig at the All Saints last night! The political cartoonist Steve Bell was speaking about his work and gave a rare insight into the machinations of our entire political class.
On 6 Sep 2016 at 10:16am gwen wrote:
Can't think why any one would post a thumbs down for this. Anyway I think the capacity of All Saints is around 200 so that number obviously gave the event the thumbs up!
On 6 Sep 2016 at 1:09pm Just Asking wrote:
Did Keith Vaz turn up ?
On 6 Sep 2016 at 2:14pm Hyena wrote:
He was on diplomatic duty improving Anglo/ Polish relations.
On 6 Sep 2016 at 2:18pm Strasbourg wrote:
I though Vaz was conducting an in-depth probe into the impact of Brexit.
On 6 Sep 2016 at 2:57pm 'rare insight' wrote:
Labour IS the 'political class' for heaven's sake.
The sooner this corpse of a party ceases to be the better - along with the un-Conservative party.
On 6 Sep 2016 at 4:00pm Andymac wrote:
As a committed Tory, just a message of thanks to all the Corbynistas in Lewes for doing their very best to ensure that the country retains a sensible well-run government not just for now, but through the next election and into the foreseeable future. You're all doing very well, your efforts are much appreciated.
On 6 Sep 2016 at 5:21pm Clifford wrote:
'A sensible and well-run government'? Andymac. You realise you're talking about a government that only recently lost its prime minister and chancellor (where are they these days?) and is havng to abandon the austerity policy of the last six years because it is leading to disaster? An economy based on rising house prices and borrowing isn't at sensible, as 2008 should have taught us.
On 7 Sep 2016 at 1:27pm Ed Can Do wrote:
This country is on it's last legs thanks to the Tories. Public transport has been all but abolished, the NHS is on the verge of collapse, we'll all spend winter sitting in the dark because they gave up on renewable energy but also haven't done anything to replace all the powerstations that are about to stop working, 80% of our navy is either broken or unbuilt, there are barely enough police left to do the coffee run, let alone investigate or prevent crime and all the current band of hopeless idiots in government care about is appeasing big multinationals so they can pick up a cozy seat on the board once the public wises up and boots them out. If history doesn't judge Cameron as the worst Prime Minister we ever had he'll certainly feature near the top of the list and so far May seems happy to challenge his spot at the top.

Luckily, with the Southern Rail debacle removing the commuter vote in the south east, Brexit and an end to free European money getting rid of the farming vote and the imminent collapse of the NHS getting rid of the old folk vote through attrition if nothing else, there's not really anyone left to vote Tory round here any more. Labour demolished the Tories in the London mayoral elections as only Richmond and Kensington really still can afford to vote Tory in London but most of the people who live there are Russian nationals and tax exiles so can't vote, Sturgeon's re-igniting of the Scottish independence campaign will kill off the Tories in Scotland and the referendum pretty much showed that the entire north of England will vote UKIP so no matter how they try to rewrite the constituency boundaries to keep themselves in power, we should see an end to the Tories once and for all in 2020. It's very difficult to form a government when only Oxford is still voting for you.
On 7 Sep 2016 at 2:32pm Andymac wrote:
Slightly confused by your response Clifford - if the government is currently already abandoning 'austerity' as you claim, why are so many voices on the left still belabouring the government for errrr.....the ongoing austerity programme. Can't have your cake and eat it, you know.
And Ed Can Do, I did enjoy your dystopian fantasy. All you needed to do was to chuck in a few zombies on the streets and the outbreak of an incurable killer virus and you'd have the makings of a half decent sci-fi miniseries. I'd be the last to claim that everything in the UK garden is rosy at the moment, or that there may not be some bumps in the road ahead, but I don't think the picture you paint is one which many people will recognise as terribly close to reality. It may represent what you are desperate to see happen, in the hope that St Jeremy the Confused would then be called upon by the Lewes Soviet to rescue the country, but that's a slightly different thing.
While I know that the polling industry has more than a few credibility challenges at the moment, I think current indications are that even among a significant proportion of Labour voters (I think I read 42% recently in one survey), there is relatively broad recognition in the country at large that Theresa May is the best person for the PM job. You may not like that or believe it, which is of course your prerogative (accepting reality is not high on the list of Corbynista virtues) but that's the way things are. And dragging this back to my original point, the current antics of the Labour party (I hesitate to use the word 'opposition') are convincing more and more people with every day that passes that there is no other sane choice.
On 7 Sep 2016 at 8:27pm Englishman wrote:
Ed can do has got it all wrong, with his doom and gloom. We now have a strong leader in the shape of Theresa May, Brexit gives us enormous opportunities to do things our way; and Labour will never form another Government all the time commie Corbyn is their leader.
Move forward ,say, ten years and we will be one of the most prosperous countries thanks to successive Conservative governments.
On 8 Sep 2016 at 10:40am Mr Maths wrote:
If Labour in Lewes retains, or even increases its support by 1000s of, votes at the next election then that guarantees a Tory MP again. All Labour and the Greens in Lewes do is take votes from the only credible opposition to the Tories locally. You may not like this but the numbers do not lie.

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On 8 Sep 2016 at 11:20am Tom Pain wrote:
Cripes, Englishman,have you heard of communitarianism? The Conservative party are now on the left of Trotsky! It's amazing how the good cop,bad cop routine continues to work. Labour borrows billions and invests it in public works,the Conservatives rip it all off, Labour gets in borrows billions...etc,etc. A nice little earner! It'll go on for ever, or until you wake up.

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