On 8 Oct 2014 at 9:18pm Phfellow2004 wrote:
Have the Lewes Lib Dems finally given up any hope of re-electing Norman Baker? Their web site seems to show absolutely no Norman activity since July! Has Norman finally accepted that he is now in the Departure Lounge!
On 8 Oct 2014 at 11:33pm Never Again! wrote:
Every time I see him in Lewes he looks like a scared rabbit transfixed by the headlights and he makes a hasty retreat.
He doesn't realise I like many others made the mistake of voting for him in the last election. Never Again!
On 8 Oct 2014 at 11:46pm Normans Wisdem wrote:
Norman Baker,what a leg end!
On 9 Oct 2014 at 6:18am Sword of Truth wrote:
He is probably busy trying to wangle an EU sinecure.
Norman like all Lib Dems is a creature of camouflage. He has a slim majority of about 1300 in a Conservative area. I daresay he is the usual left of Labour progressive really but he has been a good local MP.
The latest Polls are
Conservative 32%
Labour 30%
Liberals 7%
UKIP 17%
Hey ... what happened to all that highly principled support for PR then .. ha ha ha . I would have thought Norms only chance was the UKIP vote but with a decent candidate it should be a Conservative win as protest ebbs and the threat of Ed gets real.
By decent candidate I do not mean Jason Sugarman, who I have met several times and will not be getting my vote until the devil skates to work.
Maybe it will be a UKIP revolution ?
PS It woz Camerons speech that swung it , and 8% move against thick Ed that week
On 9 Oct 2014 at 8:32am 'erbert wrote:
Norman will win again because who will we vote for instead? There's no real opposition in the constituency. The only chance anyone else has as I see it is the Tory, and only then if there's mass apathy and the people who normally only vote Norman to keep the Tories out don't bother voting at all.
On 9 Oct 2014 at 8:46am Mavis wrote:
help !! norman CANT win AGAIN !!
On 9 Oct 2014 at 11:34am PollingReport wrote:
There are interesting (and perhaps more informed) discussions on the future of Lewes constituency on this site:
Check it out here »
On 9 Oct 2014 at 12:20pm Ex Lib Dem Voter wrote:
what Norman knows, regardless of if he gets voted in or not, and which party any of us support, is that he has to share his home town with a lot of people who witnessed his preference for self interest, over representing other people's interests. "a vote for labour is a vote for the Tories" ....should have been "a vote for Norman is a vote for the Tories" . People do not like being misled, and his subsequent record of achievements is dismal...rather like his own silly egotistical "pop" record. Yes, we haven't forgotten that embarrassing PR lowlight.
On 9 Oct 2014 at 12:46pm trooper wrote:
It is beyond endurance that we may have to have another five years of Norman Baker, and his political philosophy of me, me, me.
On 9 Oct 2014 at 1:19pm Sword of Truth wrote:
It has been amply clear form the Lib Dem Conference that a vote Lib Dem is a vote Labour this time.
Thanks for the link Mr Polling Report - good stuff and highly interesting polls results for UKIP
On 9 Oct 2014 at 2:19pm nevillman wrote:
The key questions are how much personal support will Norman have and how many tory voters will vote UKIP. Many remember the bad old days of the invisible Tory MP in Lewes but I suspect it will not be enough to save Norman from the national swing against libdems without the Tory vote being seriously split by UKIP. My view is that UKIP support will fall and we will be left with a tory. Those who believe in tactical voting and who do not want this should vote Norman.
On 9 Oct 2014 at 2:57pm Sword of Truth wrote:
The problem is,Nevill man, that the Lib Dems will not be able to form a coalition with the Conservative Party again and have made it pretty clear at their conference they will not.
That means a vote Norm is a vote for Ed, surely the worst Party leader anyone can remember. With 100 billion deficit to pay down, Euro land going back into recession you would need a very good reason to want to do that.
On 9 Oct 2014 at 3:54pm Border Control wrote:
have UKIP announced who their candidate will be to challenge Norm and the Tories ? Better not be Donna Kebab !! They need to win it !!
On 9 Oct 2014 at 4:55pm PollingReport wrote:
There's a lot of would-be Labour voters in Lewes who have been voting tactically for Norman for some time. They're hardly likely to be bothered by your arguments, SOT - although you're right on one thing: no-one thinks much of Ed M.
On 9 Oct 2014 at 6:21pm Labour Voter wrote:
This would be labour voter will be .
I like to sleep at night, even if Norman doesn't
And yes Ed M is crap, but I would rather vote for well meaning but sometimes does the right thing crap, than selfish incompetent and sometimes plain nasty crap
On 9 Oct 2014 at 6:33pm mary wrote:
Norman was very slow off the mark with the St Anne's/Subud debacle. Let's see if he comes up smelling with roses in the end. I think it's a marker. We know he has held discussions with ESCC. and has publicly expressed his concerns over the awarding of the winning bid to Subud.
On 9 Oct 2014 at 10:16pm 'erbert wrote:
I used to vote Labour until they drifted so far from their core they could be described as "sometimes plain nasty crap". Now I just won't vote I don't think.
On 10 Oct 2014 at 3:24am Fairmeadow wrote:
Some good news for the LibDems from Clacton. Admittedly they lost their deposit by miles, and came in 5th, way behind the Greens yet again, but they were still a couple of hundred votes ahead of the Loonies.
On 10 Oct 2014 at 12:48pm Long Man wrote:
LOL.
On 10 Oct 2014 at 8:55pm Boris wrote:
Norman has won this seat on the back of the many thousand tactical votes that labour voters ( Numptys ) have put his way. Now that these Numptys have had their fingers burnt they will either vote for Mr Ed or the yoghurt knitting Lucas either way the Tory vote ( even with the few UKIP drop outs ) should remain strong and this constituency will return to being a Tory strong hold. Arhhhh HAPPY DAYS.
On 12 Oct 2014 at 1:34pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I think the outcome will depend very much on what the Labour-supporting tactical voters will do.
Some will no doubt defect to UKIP, not realising they're Continuity Thatcherites, some will undoubtedly stay home, realising that a Labour vote is a waste of time in Lewes (and possibly nationally, given the party's pledge to stick to Tory spending plans). On the whole though, I think many will vote LD tactically again, as that is the only way of stopping the Tories gaining a seat. I very much doubt if the Green result in the Euros can be repeated in an FPTP election.
With UKIP splitting the Tory vote, I think that may well be enough to get Norman back in, but with a much reduced majority. That's my prediction, anyway.
UKIP have put the Tories in a bit of a cleft stick imo. If they get more like UKIP to stop the defection of Tories to Farago, they'll lose the support of the old school, one-nation Tories and galvanise the Lib/Lab opposition. They're a bit damned if they do, damned if they don't, imo.
On 14 Oct 2014 at 11:29am Sue Budd wrote:
Vote Green get Subud.