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Landport Bottom - Canine Lavatory

On 18 Jan 2013 at 2:59pm DisgustedOfLewes wrote:
Before the snow set in I went for a walk yesterday afternoon, strolled up to the Neville and to Firle Crescent and then off to the Chalk Pit.
After going through the gate I turned immediately right and headed along the backs of the houses.
here - and I am not exagerrating - there was a dog turd basically every foot, for about a hundred yards. Every footstep took me past another pile of the stuff.
It's absolutely foul. Why can't dog owners pick up? Do they think other people don't use this area? FFS.
On 18 Jan 2013 at 3:05pm Cllr Ashley Price wrote:
Sadly this is a problem in several parts of Lewes, including the Railway Land. Cllr Petrina Kingham and I did a big thing on this last year (I'll put a link below to my blog post in February 2012), which led to a week of animal warden patrols on the Railway Land, and there have since been other patrols in Lewes District since.
However, if Landport Bottom is bad then, as soon as the snow has cleared, I'm "happy" (if that's the correct term in this case ) to investigate this.

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On 18 Jan 2013 at 3:12pm Dog Owner wrote:
So there was a turd every foot for a hundred yards, 300 in total. And you're not exaggerating !!! Well I've never noticed that many, and my dog usually knocks out a couple. Do you moan about the sheep sh1t too??
On 18 Jan 2013 at 3:47pm stink of the dump wrote:
Sheep are vegetarians. Their sh1t is not foul and dangerous.

Landport's always been a sh1thole anyway.
On 18 Jan 2013 at 3:53pm Jude wrote:
What I don't get is dog owners who bag up the poop - and then leave it hanging in a tree. Just disgusting and unecessary. I saw several such packages hanging in the railway land and near the biue railway bridge yesterday. Is it some sort of protest or just laziness ?
On 18 Jan 2013 at 4:02pm Cllr Ashley Price wrote:
Hey, Jude
Petrina and I did hope to get another bin on the Railway Land as there is only one serving the whole area (see my blog, linked to above) but LDC told us the cost of purchasing and installation was too expensive.
I think I'll do a follow up to them though and ask how much it costs to pay for someone to go onto the land and clear the bags that have been left in trees, etc. As, more than being disgusting, if the bags that are in trees drop on passers-by (and I wonder if that's why they're thrown into the branches) it's also very unhygienic.
On 18 Jan 2013 at 4:12pm Dog owner wrote:
I walk my two at Landport Bottom a few times a week. The areas near the gates are truly disgusting, as the top posting claims. Only last week a woman with about four dogs saw me picking up a poop, and wouldn't shut up about it being "classified as agricultural land and therefore you don't have to pick up", even when I kept pointing out that it's horrible to come across so much poop - regardless.
What I hate is how that sort of cheap, selfish dog-owners get us all a bad name.
On 18 Jan 2013 at 4:13pm Kettle Another dog owner wrote:
I hate it when people don't clear up probably more than any non dog owner. For most of the year people with dogs are the only people in the railway land etc, so we are more likely to tread in it and throw balls that land in it.
I do think that the hysteria this subject keeps provoking on the forum is a bit ott though.
Have a look at how humans pollute the environment and then get a bit of perspective.
On 18 Jan 2013 at 5:09pm Southover Queen wrote:
Well yes, except that not chucking your dogs faeces into trees, or failing to deal with it at all, is something that every dog owner can decide to do and really make a difference. I often walk my neighbour's dog and I've found that taking a carrier bag as well as the poop bags means that you can safely carry the stuff until you do find a bin somewhere. Leaving it for someone else to deal with is revolting and seriously anti-social.
On 18 Jan 2013 at 5:24pm DisgustedOfLewes wrote:
Firstly, Landport Bottom is not in Landport, it's next to the Neville.
Secondly, sheep are herbivores are their faeces are not as toxic. That's why you can use herbivore faeces (like horse manure) to fertilise your garden.
Thirdly, sheep, badger, fox and rabbit poo are spread evenly around the area. Dog poo is all concentrated around the gates and paths which are heavily used by walkers.
Fourthly, the sheer volume of dogs using it as a toilet compared to the number of other animals.
On 18 Jan 2013 at 5:29pm DisgustedOfLewes wrote:
Cllr Price - please do take a look. The area near the gate onto Neville Road, and the around the entrance on Firle Crescent, particularly along the backs of the houses there, are just foul - much worse than on the Railway Lands. I think it's because, as someone mentioned upthread, a lot of dog walkers think it's fine to just to leave dog faeces everywhere as it's sheep-farming land.
On 18 Jan 2013 at 5:37pm Dog owner wrote:
Inside the gate to the right, at the bottom of Motor Road, is also disgustingly littered.
On 18 Jan 2013 at 7:45pm TDA wrote:
Gross. Also, when carrier bags eventually get phased out, it will get worse. What dog owner is going to carry around a dripping brown paper bag? Sheesh
On 18 Jan 2013 at 7:45pm jonnyboy wrote:
Does anyone know of anybody in the area who has been prosecuted for allowing their dog to foul? There were 2 animal wardens on Landport struggling to change the "No fouling" signs on the lamp posts a couple of days ago. Is that what they're trained for?
On 18 Jan 2013 at 8:29pm oilbarron wrote:
It's disgusting. I would love to find where these people live and empty the contents of my babies nappy on their front lawns. See how they like that !
The dogs are not the problem just the filthy lazy owners.
On 18 Jan 2013 at 8:35pm Sparky wrote:
"oilbarron" - perhaps it was you then last summer who had the also dirty habit of discarding used nappies on Landport Bottom. I came across them regularly.
On 18 Jan 2013 at 9:19pm Cllr Ashley Price wrote:
It is very difficult to get owners to clear up after their dog if they don't want to - on my blog post there's a photo of dogs mess right in front of a dog bin!
As of Petrina and my research into this last year no dog owners had been fined for their dog fouling. For a warden to fine someone they need to catch the dog "in the act" or it has to be reported by member of public, but very hard to prove.
Petrina and I will be looking into this matter soon. Keep watching my blog.
On 18 Jan 2013 at 9:27pm Kettle wrote:
You seem to have missed my point that responsible dog owners are the ones most likely to suffer from irresponsible dog owners.
Most of the year we don't see the rest of you for dust. Bit of nice snow or sunny weather and you suddenly care about the environment.
Btw I use biodegradable poo bags.
On 19 Jan 2013 at 12:19am madge wrote:
Exactly what evidence woud be needed or acceptable to prosecute?
If there is no chance of being prosecuted even in areas where it is an offence then clearly those irresponsible dog owners never need to worry about being reported. Im sure if the public knew what information would be effective they would be more inclined to name and shame individuals.
On 19 Jan 2013 at 1:45pm sceptic wrote:
If all dog owners had their dogs DNA registered by law then it would not take much to retrieve it from the poo and find the culprit. There is nothing worse than treading this disgusting stuff into your house or car Yuk:
On 19 Jan 2013 at 2:05pm Pooper Scooper wrote:
The majority of dogs defacate within the first 50 yards from being let off the lead so it would seem logical for bins to be positioned accordingly (hint hint Councils).
Dog-poo, once bagged, can be placed in any bin (not just red bins), so there really is no excuse to not pick it up and get rid of it.
On 23 Jan 2013 at 7:55pm Cllr Ashley Price wrote:
DisgustedOfLewes - Latest update for you.
Landport Bottom Management Committee had a meeting this morning dog mess was dicussed. LDC's Community Ranger, Dan Ross, has agreed to do a poster blitz up on the site, shortly.
I will keep an eye on this and am also having another meeting with Cllr Kingham in the next few days to discuss other ideas.
Posters work for a short while, but of course, we need a longer term solution.
As soon as I have more information it will be put on my (newly overhauled) blog.
On 25 Jan 2013 at 4:41pm Local wrote:
Can you stick it on here too please - haven't the time to chase round endless blogs very few days. Ta
On 26 Jan 2013 at 12:12am Horseman7 wrote:
On the front page of this week's Sussex Express.
On 26 Jan 2013 at 9:10am Cllr Ashley Price wrote:
Local - No problem at all.
I have the meeting today with Cllr Petrina Kingham who has been looking into different ways of clearing dog mess and has found some interesting ideas. She is also wanting to show me "dinky bags" (she didn't make it clear if this is going to be a "live" demonstration )
We are going to be looking round the Railway Land again and then, tomorrow, now a lot of the snow has cleared, I will go up to Landport Bottom myself to have a look round.
On 26 Jan 2013 at 11:05pm Old Cynic wrote:
I think you mean Dicky Bags - which are fabric (neoprene) zipped bags with a filter you can pop your filled poop bags in until you reach a waste bin. Nicer than carrying a poo bag - down side is they are REALLY expensive and no one sells them in Sussex - you have to go on line - I got one to try and they work well.
On 27 Jan 2013 at 12:56pm Cllr Ashley Price wrote:
Yes, you are indeed correct, Old Cynic, and I did get a live demonstration of their use yesterday, thanks to one of Cllr Kingham's dogs.
We were on the Railway Land yesterday and while we saw several instances of dogs mess on the ground, we were at least pleased not to see bags hanging from trees, so wonder if there's been a recent clean up.
I had planned to go to Landport Bottom today, but during the night, part of a tree came down in our garden, so I've been clearing this.
If anyone wants to see the latest information regarding this and our next steps, see my blog post, link below.

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On 4 Feb 2013 at 8:05pm Cllr Ashley Price wrote:
As promised, my findings on Landport Bottom, after finally being able to get there this weekend.
One of the complaints was the amount of dogs mess around the gate, however, I have to say I couldn't see any. However, as I walked further on the extent of the problem became obvious.
I walked along the path to the small trees/large bushes in the distance (if you go to my blog post - linked to below - you'll see a photo which gives more detail). Along the two ridges there was a lot of instances of dog mess. although the path itself was relatively clear. I was also pleased to see that, unlike in other areas, there didn't appear to be any instances of "doggie doo danglers" (where people had thrown their now full poop bags into the trees).
Moving away from the path and the ridges, the dog mess becomes less evident. I spent some time zig-zagging back and forth - so much so that one lady asked if I had lost something.

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On 4 Feb 2013 at 9:09pm Kettle wrote:
Or you could try getting a life.

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