On 12 Apr 2012 at 1:10pm Eminence Grise wrote:
Anyone have any plans?
Looking to join a group or form one......
On 12 Apr 2012 at 1:30pm Cliffite wrote:
It's a shame that the organisers of the Kony 2012 campaign are themselves essentially raising up their own sect army of brainwashed children with hardcore Christian Right fundamentals. Not only that, their accounting is highly questionable with very little of the funds raised actually going towards positive action, rather highly produced viral videos. Oh and they get arrested for appearing naked in public places and masturbating. Hardly the kind of thing we need in Lewes.
On 12 Apr 2012 at 2:09pm Eminence Grise wrote:
Well I knew when I posted, there was bound to be some negative comments, but first one, and within 20 mins....wow!
OK, by point:
Brainwashing? Please see the video, and do the research. I have and as a reasonably intelligent individual I've have come to the conclusion that this is a a campaign I care enough about to want to be involved with.
The tens of thousands of folk who are backing Kony 2012 come from all religions, and many like me, from none.
Accounting: Invisible Children's accounting is a matter of public record. Im satisfied where the money goes, but if you are not, please don't send them a cheque. This doesn't preclude anyone raising awareness and encouraging Kony to be brought to justice. Over a million hits on the original video, and global consciousness raising‚?¶.personally Id say that was money very well spent‚?¶.
As to the arrest of Jason Russell, he was in fact after being picked up by the police hospitalised suffering from exhaustion, dehydration and malnutrition, clearly a man in crisis. With the intense media pressure and spotlight thrown on him, to me a breakdown was almost inevitable. But just because the messenger is down, does it invalidate the message?
So , Im assuming Cliffite doesn't want to get involved. One of the things I love about Lewes is its full of impassioned people who do. Love to hear from you if you are one of those people, or please put me in touch with other's who want to do something positive on the April 20th.
I can be contacted directly here: email@example.com
On 12 Apr 2012 at 2:53pm Cheeky Monkey wrote:
The thing is, Eminence Grise, is that religion causes conflict, war, death, rape, lying, terrorism, extremism. fundamentalism etc. I found that by disavowing all forms of organised religion that i am a much happier person and I get into a lot less rows.
On 12 Apr 2012 at 3:03pm Engelbert wrote:
This whole KONY 2012 thing is a huge scam by a fundamentalist Christian sect. A "reasonably intelligent individual" who bothered to look at this in a bit more detail might work that out. But you have to put the effort in and they're banking that most people don't bother.
On 12 Apr 2012 at 3:15pm Cheeky Monkey wrote:
Englebert, you have just described all religions "a huge scam" brilliantly succinct and to the point. My dad has spent his whole life, a life full of ups and downs, hanging onto his christian beliefs. He has become the most bitter and judgmental old man.
On 12 Apr 2012 at 9:10pm Gareth Stobart wrote:
I whole heartedly disagree with the invisible children charity, only 1/3 goes to where they say the money will go. The rest of the money goes into making a cult sect brainwashing people, ultimately trying to turn them to radical cristianity. Look at some of their 2000 odd videos and not many of them actually mention what they are supposed to be campaigning about. Stop Kony 2012 wont achieve much anyway, they aren't exactly going to go there and get them himself. One video explains this a lot is where they just make it into a song and dance with no mention of what it's for, they are basically making music videos with valuable money which could help people, another one makes some sort of camp where they look like they are inducting people for some weird stuff.
Stop Kony yes, really quickly to get rid of these anus' at the invisible children.
On 12 Apr 2012 at 9:11pm Gareth Stobart wrote:
get him themselves, sorry.
On 12 Apr 2012 at 11:11pm middleclassandabitsmug wrote:
GS, your last sentence doesn't seem to make sense: anus' is the possessive form of a word ending with 's'.
I think you may have meant the pleural which I guess is anuses. Incidentally I agree with your argument.
On 13 Apr 2012 at 12:06am expat two wrote:
middleclassandabitsmug, your first sentence doesn't seem to make sense: 'pleural' means of or pertaining to the lung lining.
I think you may have meant 'plural' which means of or pertaining to more than one.
Incidentally I agree with your argument.
On 13 Apr 2012 at 10:47am rickshaweddie wrote:
Perhaps you should take a look at the following link to see African voices respond to hyper-popular Kony 2012 viral campaign.
It is a total misguided fraud, Kony has not even been in the country for a year or so.
Check it out here »
On 13 Apr 2012 at 10:51am rickshaweddie wrote:
And from Marc DuBois of the M√©decins Sans Fronti√®res who are actually on the ground here is one of their views on the whole Kony hype.
Most madmen love the idea of fame so Joseph Kony‚??s wet dream just came true. He‚??s trending. He‚??s gone viral. He‚??s bigger than Victoria Beckham, Tiger Woods and Newt Gingrich all together. He‚??s still nuts, of course, but his madness has become the social media equivalent of a cuddly polar bear cub eating an ice cream cone.
Have you seen the stir caused by the success (over 50,000,000 views!) of Invisible Children‚??s video; of their campaign to stop butcher extraordinaire Kony and his Lord‚??s Resistance Army? Check out Michael Wilkerson‚??s blistering critique, and then the critique of the critique (in the comments). The blogosphere is choked with aid agency pundits like me getting steamed by the sheer ego of Invisible Children. Even the Ugandans are pissed off.
Check it out here »
On 13 Apr 2012 at 11:57am Mobile Number wrote:
Eminence Grise seems to have disappeared.
On 13 Apr 2012 at 12:15pm rickshaweddie wrote:
A bit like Kony
On 13 Apr 2012 at 6:49pm Gareth Stobart wrote:
Glad so many people see my view point, I feel a lot of younger people have seen the video and liked things on Facebook and think that they are part of something, yet they forgo the knowledge or effort to learn all the information. There was too much hype and people jumped on the bandwagon. I am only 20 yet didn't get caught up in it as I was sceptical from the start. Lewes agrees
On 13 Apr 2012 at 9:31pm padster wrote:
Wow what a love in of self congratulating wonderfully clever and wise lot you all are , and smug. The first post was simply pointing out rightly or wrongly Kony is news now and this exposure should be used to try to convince or encourage governments to get this criminal. The Guardian in May 2011 lists kony as 7th most wanted and i quote " Head of the Lord's Resistance Army, a guerrilla group engaged in a violent campaign to establish theocratic government in Uganda. Has also operated in the Democratic Republic of Congo, and Sudan, abducting an estimated 66,000 children and displacing more than two million people since 1986. The International Criminal Court has indicted him on 33 charges including crimes against humanity and war crimes."
so i would say a just cause is a good cause, focus on that , and anyone can google something and cut and paste.
I hope they get kony and he stands trial.
On 14 Apr 2012 at 4:13pm Rickshaweddie wrote:
No one is debating The Man Kony and his crimes, what they are debating is whether Invisibile Children is detracting from the work by real aid agencies on the ground with the knowledge and experience of the current situation rather than pandering to something and someone that is no longer a threat to Ugandans.
It is telling that if the Ugandans are seriously pissed off by this charity then clearly something not right.
Hear their own voices and don't fall for the hype.
If the majority of newsources are slating the Kony 2012, as well as all the authorative charities on the ground, then that should sound alarm bells as to what is happening.
On 14 Apr 2012 at 7:35pm padster wrote:
I take your point but it did come accross as snearing against those who, whatever their motivation have done a good job at putting kony on the agenda. I must admit i saw the invisible children video, there was nothing to suggest they were a christian organisation, and even if they were; being a christian need not be a dirty word as it is to some people. Regardless of this and as i said, I hope kony gets his... and soon.
malcolm X said "by whatever means necessary" sometimes that can be a useful rule to apply in getting people like kony. Eminence, he is not gullible just cares about injustice , more power to him.
On 16 Apr 2012 at 3:59pm Ed Can Do wrote:
The original video has had over a million hits? That's nothing these days. I watched a video of a large woman trying to eat a ladle full of cinammon yesterday that had already been watched by twelve and a half million other people and it's only been online for a couple of weeks. Hell, you'd struggle to find a video with a kitten in it that hasn't been seen a million times.