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Kerslake .Decision to leave EU should be reopened

On 18 Aug 2018 at 1:59pm Demosthenes wrote:

The ex-civil service chief advising Jeremy Corbyn has said the UK must re-open the decision to quit the EU if it is faced with a no-deal Brexit.
Lord Kerslake said the consequences of leaving without a deal in place would be so severe that parliament would have to re-examine the 2016 referendum result.
The peer�s intervention � in which he also suggested an extension to the Article 50 period may be needed � is the latest sign of pressure within Labour to move towards backing a new referendum, with the issue set to feature at this year�s party conference.

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On 18 Aug 2018 at 2:27pm Sensible wrote:

Appalling that such monotonous garbage should be given time. The population of Britain has decided. How dare anyone speak against the will of the clear majority! This is a time to pull together. If you don't want to walk in the right direction, LEAVE. Nothing is more important now than to preserve dignity, honesty of purpose, and national integrity by leaving without regrets. We have already taken more than two years too long. Britain has a track record of prevailing against European enemies.

On 18 Aug 2018 at 4:05pm Desmodromic wrote:

Lord Haw Haw more like

On 18 Aug 2018 at 7:09pm Lords a leaping wrote:

Was this Lord elected?

On 18 Aug 2018 at 7:57pm Clifford wrote:

France 2005 - voters reject ratification of EU Constitution in referendum. The vote is ignored and the Constitution is repackaged as the 'Lisbon Treaty'.

Netherlands 2005 - voters reject ratification of EU Constitution in referendum. The vote is ignored and the Constitution is repackaged as the 'Lisbon Treaty'.

Ireland 2008 -voters reject ratification of EU Constitution in referendum. The Irish are told to vote again on the 'Lisbon Treaty'.

I think I see a pattern emerging: Vote the way we want or we'll make you vote again until you do.

2018: 'FRENCH president Emmanuel Macron shocked Andrew Marr during their interview when he admitted that had France held a referendum on membership of the EU after Brexit, the French people would vote to leave.'

On 18 Aug 2018 at 8:18pm Bob wrote:

There is literally no point debating with Brexiters. They'd rather "win" at the expense of the country than "lose" and see Britain prosper. They've even convinced themselves they are patriotic because of a nod to misunderstood history and zero actual facts to support their vision for the future. Education must have been totally broken a couple of generations ago. Their own studies show each household we will be ten times worse off out of the EU, this is why even Farage says we won't be better off, but they literally would rather be poorer than try and gain an understanding of what the EU actually is and how it works. Facts hurt so they'll down vote this obviously.

On 18 Aug 2018 at 8:43pm Greengrass wrote:

If you haven't had a job in years the idea of losing one isn't very frightening whereas there is a lot of joy in seeing the well to do suffer.
Its a shame remainers we're to clever to understand this.

On 18 Aug 2018 at 11:13pm Clifford wrote:

Bob wrote: 'There is literally no point debating with Brexiters. They'd rather "win" at the expense of the country than "lose" and see Britain prosper.'

Bob, did you ever wonder why the people telling you to vote Remain were the Tory government, the City, the banks? Do you really think they care about your interests? They seems to be an illusion among Remainers that the EU represents some sort of 'caring capitalism'. Even a Remainer, Paul Mason, wrote this:
'The EU is not � and cannot become � a democracy. Instead, it provides the most hospitable ecosystem in the developed world for rentier monopoly corporations, tax-dodging elites and organised crime. It has an executive so powerful it could crush the leftwing government of Greece; a legislature so weak that it cannot effectively determine laws or control its own civil service. A judiciary that, in the Laval and Viking judgments, subordinated workers� right to strike to an employer�s right do business freely.'
You don't seem to be able to understand that many of us on the left are opposed to the EU for those very reasons.

On 19 Aug 2018 at 12:57am Grumpy Cat wrote:

The definitive brexit monologue.

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On 19 Aug 2018 at 9:32am Cathy wrote:

I don't actually care who told me to remain just like you don't care at all that it was the disaster capitalists, the racists and the Little Englanders who told us to leave. It's all vested interests. What I do care about is my future and that of the country and that's better in the hands of those who told us to remain because they rely on us having jobs and earning money. However sordid their reasons they are less grim than those leading leave and their friendship with Bannon. They are all going to make money from impoverishing the rest of us and fomenting racial divides. I don't like the EU, but I like having a job and a future and a relatively harmonious society. Perhaps you're too young and naive to remember what it was like in the past Clifford? I can't believe you're just blinkered by your anti-EU feelings or uncaring about what is happening.