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Isn't it odd

On 6 May 2017 at 9:59am You couldn't make it up wrote:
The recent local elections prove 'the progressive' partys just aren't trusted by their majority of the country. Yet reading the loud mouth wind bags on here you'd think they are the best thing since sliced bread.
Laugh? If I must
On 6 May 2017 at 10:09am Pedro wrote:
It doesn't help that the more liberal and progressive parties across the UK effectively split the vote across 5 different parties (inc Plaid Cymru and SNP). With UKIP now pretty much defunct, the tories admittedly have united the centre right, and right politics.

The only real solution is for the progressive parties to unite and reform as one party. This of course reduces choice for the electorate, but politics is a tough game and evidently punishing with the first past the post system where a split in votes makes all the difference.
On 6 May 2017 at 10:10am Deja Vu wrote:
What you can't make up is to fact that the majority vote for the party that supports the minority!
On 6 May 2017 at 10:14am Vegie wrote:
They dangle a carrot people can't resist even though deep down they know it's the root veg of all evil.
On 6 May 2017 at 10:27am ClarifiedButler wrote:
Maybe it's just that a lot of people are lazy and will just go with whatever party seems to have the momentum behind them. Trying to see too much rhyme or reason in the way electoral tides change is a bit of a fools errand. Still it keeps people with a political chip on their shoulder busy.
On 6 May 2017 at 10:31am Pedro wrote:
They want a "strong and stable" leader, yet not sure why they consider Theresa May as one of those? She looks utterly terrified in interviews, refuses to debate properly against other party leaders for the general public, and never deviates from script (aside from saying "tourism" rather than "terrorism"). She is robotic, awkward, tense, and focuses on deriding the opposition rather than on her own policies....perhaps due to some of her better ones being "borrowed" from Miliband/Balls that they previously ridiculed.

Many people vote tories as they make the claim to be for the "aspirational" and portray the other parties as chaotic, or for the lazy and feckless, or the parties of "debt". Many people surely self-identify as aspirational and ambitious, so the obvious choice would be tories until you realise their policies are counter intuitive and only genuinely favour the very wealthy minority, while doubling the national debt in just 7 years and borrowing more than any previous Labour chancellor hardly justifies their own tag of being fiscally competent.

Voting Tory is predominantly a self-serving vain and superficial thing as the perceptions of Labour and other parties are so negatively portrayed by an ever expanding hostile right wing media.
On 6 May 2017 at 12:25pm ToryVoter wrote:
That's right pedr0, slag off the majority of the voters. When it comes to vain, superficial and pompous, you always come first passed the post.
On 6 May 2017 at 12:52pm Billy wrote:
John Mc Donnell says that Thursday's result was a surprise to those in the Labour Party. Strange that the majority of the country saw it coming.
On 6 May 2017 at 1:09pm Pedro wrote:
@toryvoter. I'm voting for parties that would likely increase my taxes and contributions to the government. I just don't want to live in a society where there is a race to the bottom, and where the most vulnerable are being ignored. The only way my vote is self-serving, is that a better and more compassionate country, that looks after the sick, the disabled and the more vulnerable, is a nicer place to live in generally.
On 6 May 2017 at 1:36pm bobobob wrote:
Not really. Most people still think labour caused the global economic crisis and that the tories will be a government for everyone. Dunno why they think that? May I ask what you're hoping the tories do with their power over the next 5 years?

In 5 years time, once the tories have almost destroyed the social services we all need, the progressives will be back in power overspending to make up for the shocking state these services have been left in.

But these cuts to services are necessary as you know. The 1% need their tax reduced and we all need £60 Billion spent on a train line to make it 20 mins quicker.
On 6 May 2017 at 2:19pm To Uckfield ? wrote:
£20 billion ?
On 6 May 2017 at 8:39pm Sad Fact wrote:
Everyone knows the Tories will sell the NHS, yet still won't vote Labour, me included
Go figure Jezza

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