On Thu 9 Jun at 10:02am Tom Pain wrote:
Yes zoonotic plague has jumped from monkeys to foxes to humans. Contact your MP and tell them that the government must order 50 million vax doses or you'll never vote for them again. Just because I'm a secret agent for Big Oil doesn't mean I would do the same for Big Pharma. Even I have some principles, just about. Insist on a lockdown and public masking, keep ugly faces off the street. You know it makes sense.
On Thu 9 Jun at 12:41pm Green Sleeves wrote:
Perhaps you should respond to Pedants last post (before the thread maxed out) regarding the Maldives, and also about CO2 density.
I appreciate you're already on to the next conspiracy theory after yet another debunking, but it would be nice to actually recognise it instead of just ranting about the next "scam" you want to be outraged about. It may save you from further embarrassment later if you're humble enough to listen and learn.
On Thu 9 Jun at 7:46pm Tom Pain wrote:
Oh my sleevie, my humility level is high enough to cause galactic warming. CO2 is heavier than air! How many more times do you require me to say it. I know it's a constituent of the air but I have this theory which, if you weren't so anally fixated on me, you'd find is generally shared among your gods of science,is that it exists on it's own, it's a distinct gas which is heavier than air. Can you get that? Are you one of the Asov battalion, as your small minded, malicious attitude suggests? The pedant, like you, is only in it to parade his patronising smirk in the mirror of his own self image; as is well evinced by his supercilious comments.
On Thu 9 Jun at 7:58pm Tom Pain wrote:
P.S. My post was actually a reply to another of those advertising posts which I had a theory was conspiring to sell something, that has now disappeared. So there you have it- that's my new one, you can chew on that for a good few snide comments.
On Thu 9 Jun at 10:39pm Green Sleeves wrote:
You seem rattled TP. Hardly a sign of humility, but i'm not surprised.
As for the Azov Batallion - a group of about 2,500 far-right wing nutters, a small regiment of a Ukrainian military of quarter of a million, all on the same side now, fighting against Russian occupation. Putin has done their credibility the world of good, although has probably killed many of them, and lost many of his own in the process. I'm sure Ukraine is well and truly de-nazified now, but perhaps they should use a few nukes just to make sure?
This small far-right wing group is being used as a propaganda tool by Putin to justify his illegal, psychotic and costly invasion of a country that doesn't want the Russian military there. He's created fake sob-stories that only half-wits and useful idiots believe. Ukraine had just ONE far-right member of parliament at the time Russia waged this "de-nazification" war on them, and the President is a liberal jew who lost relatives to the Nazis in WW2! The fact the far-right have been part of the Ukrainian resistance will be quite a PR win for them, and probably gain more support when the dust settles.
On Fri 10 Jun at 11:30pm Tom Pain wrote:
Neat one sleevie. One problem- The Nazis were the muscle for the Maidan coup some time back and Zelenskiyyy had to arrange a quid pro quo. A far right extremist ghoul got the job of defence minister or similar, anyway with a lot of military power. He threatened that if MrZ negotiated with Vlad the Horrible about the breakaway republics that he, Mr Z, would end up hanging from a lamp post in Kiev High St. They ain't in parliament but they have influence on the street. They're not Maria C type right wingers.
On Sat 11 Jun at 11:22am Green Sleeves wrote:
Another problem, Zelenskyy was just an actor and comic at the time of the revolution in 2014. The fact is that Yanukovych was a Putin stooge and he was unpopular, denying Ukraine of potential prosperity of more collaboration with the EU. While he may have had some genuine support at the time in some regions of the country (more likely just afraid of change, same as in many countries like here, who keep voting Tory as they buy into fear of the alternative), I doubt those same people would be crying out for his return though and praising Putin for obliterating their cities in a clearly fake "de-nazification" campaign. Its mostly propaganda, and smearing opponents as "nazis" is the easiest and most effective thing to do, even if its untrue or at best a massive exaggeration of reality. You label your opponents as nazis there, just as parties here label political opponents as communists. Look at the way parts of the british media labeled former Labour leaders as dangerous communists and jew-haters. Its textbook stuff, and sadly works quite effectively.
The fact is that Putin, has made these "Nazis" essentially useful. You tend to embolden tough-guy nationalists when another country starts claiming that Ukraine isn't a real country, and just an extension of Russia/USSR, meanwhile annexing huge territories like Crimea.
On Sat 11 Jun at 11:36pm Tom Pain wrote:
What are you going on about? Perhaps I was wrong about you being a troll, you just appear to be completely psychotic. Have you heard about the referendum in Crimea? The building the nice progressives torched and burned lots of people alive in Odessa? I'm not taking sides, I want nothing to do with Putin or Zelenskyyy. I just dislike seeing the people of Ukraine slaughtered to make a profit for a bunch of arms manufacturers and their financiers, if there's a difference, in Russia or NATO land. That's it. Go to Ukraine if you're so involved and find out the facts. You could really show Putin what you think of him too and kill people in the break away republics for being his stooges and wanting change.
On Sat 11 Jun at 11:46pm Tom Pain wrote:
PS, I hereby invoke Nevill's Charter and demand a return to the monkey fox bird swine flu pox pestilence, a nice healthy subject. Also, I'd like to see it in the medical section, not the political, because it isn't.
On Mon 13 Jun at 11:12pm Tom Pain wrote:
On Tue 14 Jun at 9:33am Tom Pain wrote:
Meanwhile back at the surgery- I hear that Spanish newspapers are investigating fake jabs given to those who wanted a covey passport and could afford one. It's interesting to speculate why the president of a large pharmaceutical concern involved in the jibjabs would want one. I seem to remember the pres. of Pfizer refused his own medicine as well. It makes me wonder where else these fake jabs were selling....here...and there?
On Tue 14 Jun at 10:17am Green Sleeves wrote:
Yes Tom, and perhaps Ronald McDonald doesnt eat the new signature McPlant Burger....should we all avoid it as it sounds like a good conspiracy?
The words fruit and loop must mean something to you, beyond a breakfast cereal. Stop indulging in likely obvious nonsense gossip. Which spanish rag was it? Lets check their credibility before we fall too easily down another incel dork rabbit hole.
On Sat 18 Jun at 12:42pm Green Sleeves wrote:
Sorry TP....i was being mean to you again. Please come back! Anyways, lets calmly discuss your claims as they roll in. This is the Pfizer one in the link, does the claim hold up? Seems not. This might be the issue of taking Facebook sources seriously...
Check it out here »
On Sat 18 Jun at 11:22pm Tom Pain wrote:
Full fact, hmm, founded by tory party donor Michael Samuel. Moonlighting tory boy sleevie wonder sticks close to home. I suppose you're posting from Ukraine.
On Sun 19 Jun at 4:06pm Green Sleeves wrote:
To be fair, the fullfact link merely just shared the full quote and context....instead of the knee-jerk reactionists, desperate for a conspiracy, taking bits of the quote and interpreting their way.
The pfizer CEO has had it as well as boosters. He just wasn't among the first to have it. The boring reality is this :
"In December, Mr Bourla gave an interview on CNBC where he said he didn’t want to receive his company’s vaccine ahead of others who needed it more.
When asked when he would be vaccinated, he replied: “(The) sooner I can I will. The only sensitivity here [...] is that I don’t want to have an example that I am cutting the line.
“I am 59-years-old, I am in good health, I’m not working in the frontline so my type is not recommended to get vaccination now.”
He and fullfact have all the receipts. They are merely responding to misleading and damaging claims that were clearly false....but sadly have filtered through to people like you who tend to fall for online hoaxes.
On Sun 19 Jun at 8:13pm Tom Pain wrote:
Do you believe him? Also, did you see that Gates admitted that the pestilence was no worse than a bad cold and only killed people that a cold would have? Plus also, are you going to go for the monkey business?
On Sun 19 Jun at 9:02pm Green Sleeves wrote:
Seems perfectly reasonable and more likely than him not taking it at all. If anything, i'd find it more plausible that he lied about waiting for his turn to take it! I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of the very first to have it.
As for Bill Gates....firstly, a) he's a software developer, not a medical professional, and b) if you're referring to comments he made in november 21 about covid being on par with the cold by middle of 2022 - that is probably down to his assumption on the efficacy of the vaccines. He may well be right on that, but we shall have to see how the numbers pan out, as people are still dying, but surely less deadly strains, vaccinated populations on top of previous infections will bring these numbers down significantly from what we had in 2020 and 2021, thankfully.
In fact, he said pretty much that : "“Between natural immunity, vaccine immunity and new oral treatments, the death rate and disease rates ought to be coming down pretty dramatically,” Mr Gates told the Bloomberg New Economy Forum in Singapore.
On Mon 20 Jun at 9:18am Tom Pain wrote:
According to the UK health sadistics*, the number of vaxed with serious problems from the cold vastly exceeded the unvaxed. That was until they stopped reporting for some peculiar reason and don't forget that all these numbers are for "with corvid*" not of it. Yes Gates is a software playboy but he is a vax billionaire investor and, with the pharmaceutical industry, a major donor to the very dodgy dr WHO. Are you getting worried about the new plague, the jabs are on offer?
On Mon 20 Jun at 1:56pm Green Sleeves wrote:
Im open to having a vaccine should it be necessary, ill await the medical professionals opinion. I dont get spooked by them like you do, and ive not had any trouble with any vaccine i have had throughout my life. Many millions of people would have died without the help of vaccinations throughout modern history. I think scaremongering people into not taking them is more harmful than the reverse.
Please share these stats though. As it does seem like you have probably misinterpreted and grasped something incorrectly, it wouldnt be the first time.
On Tue 21 Jun at 8:14pm Tom Pain wrote:
You know where to find them and they tell you how to interpret them. It's baroque, the official version of- who do you believe, me or your lying eyes. It's similar to- You'll own nothing and you'll like it- means something completely different- when interpreted by fact checkers. You're one of the consensus generation - I'm not- its a different world.
On Wed 22 Jun at 12:58pm emelyblunt wrote:
Here are a few major differences when comparing B2B vs. B2C sales: There are more decision-makers involved: Unlike in B2C sales, where a seller only has to convince one person to buy its product, B2B sellers have to deal with multiple stakeholders across multiple departments before they can complete a sale. And the number of parties involved in a B2B sale is growing. According to the Harvard Business Review, the average number of people involved in a typical B2B sale grew from 5.4 in 2015 to 6.8 in 2017. The transactions are bigger: While a B2C seller might sell one product to one end user, businesses regularly buy in bulk, making multiple unit purchases with much higher price tags. The sales cycle is longer: There are no impulse buys in B2B sales. With more stakeholders involved and higher prices, completing a sale simply takes longer. In fact, according to CSO Insights, almost half (46.4%) of B2B sales to new customers take longer than seven months to complete. Pricing is more fluid: Generally, the average consumer accepts a stated price and whips out the credit card. But in B2B sales, where a company is placing a large order, the pricing strategy is different. Customers expect to negotiate on prices before they place an order. The payment process is more complex. When a B2C sale occurs, the consumer generally pays upfront immediately before taking the good or service. B2B customers expect to pay at a later date, once the products are received and an invoice is issued.
Check it out here »
On Thu 23 Jun at 11:14pm Tom Pain wrote: