On 19 Apr 2017 at 5:28pm Lib,Lab,Green wrote:
With Labour on its knees and the Lib Dems’ resurgence underwhelming and not very surgey, the only way to prevent a paradigm-shifting Conservative majority with and a government with a mandate for a nasty and dangerous hard Brexit is for Labour, Lib Dems and Greens to collaborate and back only one candidate in swing seats; the one with the greatest chance of winning.
Couple this with the fact that remainerism remains strong in many constituencies and with Scotland’s desire to fast track to devolution and you have a potent mix of issues that could, with guile and resource, be bridled in the progressive interests.
There’s a whole range of reasons why this won’t happen. The Lib Dems will regain some seats anyway, so Farron will be able to hang on as leader and paint 2017 as a partial recovery. Labour is led by a decent but incompetent, inveterate back bench contrarian and will not be able to overcome its innate tribalism and sense of electoral entitlement. The Greens believe - wrongly - that they can grow as a Parliamentary force.
Plus electoral collaboration to stop a Conservative landslide would be a big gamble; it’s not known how voters would respond and it’s probable that a ‘vote Farron, get Corbyn’ defence from the Tories would be very effective. But how else can the almost inevitable be prevented?
The ‘oh sh*t’ outcome appears most likely. May’s right-wingers, her appeasement of hatred and de facto tolerance of racism; her transforming of the UK into a tax haven and her championship of the hardest of Brexits that will deprive our children of their future as Europeans is the fate that most likely awaits us.
Unless of course the progressive parties can work together. History, and not their own electoral gain, is in their hands.
On 19 Apr 2017 at 6:11pm Clifford wrote:
Last time people voted Lib Dem to stop the Tories in 2010... they ended up with the Lib Dems propping up a Tory government - the one that brought the Health & Social Care Act, demonisation of the disabled, trebling of tuition fees. The Lib Dems were punished for this in 2015. Don't be fooled by these charlatans again.
On 19 Apr 2017 at 6:15pm Mark wrote:
The issue here is that even BBC TV are firmly Tory now along with the rest of the media. Every single time that I've seen Farron on the news he just gets asked over and over and over again whether homosexuality is a sin. He's dead in the water because of one stupid opinion that he expressed.
On 19 Apr 2017 at 9:17pm Clifford wrote:
For a successful Brexit voting Tory is the only way to go.I certainly will be.
On 19 Apr 2017 at 9:24pm Hot Lips wrote:
Get a life Paul. Seriously you are like a turd floating in a glass of champagne.
On 19 Apr 2017 at 9:43pm We'vehadourfun wrote:
Who annoys you most on this forum hotlips? apart from peeeedro
On 19 Apr 2017 at 10:13pm Clifford wrote:
The ultimate flattery - someone pretending to be me. I wouldn't vote Tory if I was stood against the wall with a gun at my head.
On 19 Apr 2017 at 10:37pm Susex lad wrote:
Clifford and clifford. Get a life. Please
On 20 Apr 2017 at 12:08am The Greek wrote:
Clifford I was about to say!!! I voted Green last time and pretty much all my friends did too (young people). It seems I keep meeting former Green voters yet their vote share was small in comparison. Although I don't doubt that many of those million will now vote Labour. I know I and many of my former Green voting acquaintances will be. You'll find it hard to find many people in my demographic to vote Lib Dem, unless they have just reached voting age.
Many in Lewes voted for Norman to keep the Tories out, that failed in 2010 so drifts to the Greens etc in 2015 got Caulfield in. To have to consider voting Lib Dem again against better judgement shows how ridiculous the system is.
On 20 Apr 2017 at 8:02am Voter wrote:
There no way you can stop May. It's going to follow on from April like it does every year. Hope that helps xx
On 20 Apr 2017 at 8:32am Reality wrote:
Lib/Lab/Greens, no matter how much whinging about how poorly your beloved party is doing or however much you blame Teresa May for Brexit, the fact is she'll win by one of the largest margins ever recorded. Save yourselves the stress & bother & the rest of this forum by accepting it. Who knows one day others may come around to your thinking...but I wouldn't hold your breath. Moaning on here certainly won't help at all
On 20 Apr 2017 at 8:35am Hot Lips wrote:
Haha nice one voter x
On 20 Apr 2017 at 9:53am The Greek wrote:
Reality you are letting the news write the news for you instead of creating the news for them to report. Shame, people should think for themselves!
On 20 Apr 2017 at 11:15am Reality wrote:
@TheGreek, are you kidding?! This whole forum has been hijacked by Lib/Lab/Green ranting about how people should vote, I merely pointed out the reality. In fact after today's news it's seems 'Lib/Lab/Green' is now one big party, what a mess they are all in. Strong opposition is critical to good democracy, we no longer have any sense of that after these plans today led by the Greeks for Lib/Lab/Green to work together, embarrassing frankly. All three leaders of those parties should now step aside & let some real leaders with real policy's run this campaign against the Conservatives, they have nothing to lose
On 20 Apr 2017 at 11:17am Reality wrote:
Led by the Greens not the 'Greeks' obviously, although the Greeks & Labour would share many similarities when it came to running the Economy
On 20 Apr 2017 at 7:59pm Dexter wrote:
@Reality - "Save yourselves the stress & bother & the rest of this forum by accepting it".
Erm... nah!. I won't be taking advice from supine serfs like yourself.
On 20 Apr 2017 at 11:05pm Reality wrote:
@Dexter 'Supine serfs' that has cracked me up, cheers. Who actually says that stuff, hilarious 
Really though save yourself all the stress & heartache, pop back on in 4/5 years time it may be different then