On 15 Mar 2017 at 5:40pm European wrote:
Just wondering if it's 10-15 percent or more? Have quite a few French and Dutch friends in Brighton and London but don't know any in Lewes. Anyone know?
On 15 Mar 2017 at 5:45pm endoftheouse wrote:
On 15 Mar 2017 at 5:59pm European wrote:
Ha ha, that's funny, I think there is too little! But there probably will be less now so you might see them disappear soon.
On 15 Mar 2017 at 6:02pm Dumbass wrote:
About 20000? I think we are all eu citizens
On 15 Mar 2017 at 6:41pm Earl wrote:
I know a Norwegian and a Swiss person in Lewes. They're not EU citizens, but seem to get along fine. I think people are being a bit alarmist about how much things will change - at least, I hope so.
On 15 Mar 2017 at 7:03pm Meic wrote:
All of us
On 15 Mar 2017 at 7:05pm Tim wrote:
Would I be wrong to think that probably 95% of people living in Lewes are EU citizens?
On 15 Mar 2017 at 8:35pm Spike wrote:
When do we get the new passports? We was promised Lions. I won't be happy if it's not got Lions on it.
On 15 Mar 2017 at 8:47pm European wrote:
Ah, meant from mainland Europe, sorry!
On 15 Mar 2017 at 9:33pm Clifford wrote:
Is this inward-looking, narrow 'EU citizenship' the internationalism Remainers pretend they're all about? Tom Paine would have laughed.
On 15 Mar 2017 at 10:02pm Number Cruncher wrote:
According to the ESCC website, 3.2 per cent of the county's population have non-UK nationalities. Eastbourne has the largest proportion of its population who are non-UK citizens (5 per cent). Non-UK EU citizen numbers will, of course, be smaller.
On 16 Mar 2017 at 6:45am European wrote:
Thanks number c!
On 16 Mar 2017 at 7:54am Murphy wrote:
What an interesting question! There are children of Spain Italy Portugal, Spain, such as those of Nigel Farage who hold German and presumably British passports and then there are us proud Irish, born of course in Northern Ireland but eligible for European passports and more recently joined by over 400 applicants for citizenship to the Irish Embassy In London in the days immediately after the Referendum alone. So if you are talking about Lewes District I would estimate 25% of the total population including the children and grandchildren, spouses and partners.
On 16 Mar 2017 at 9:26am Observer wrote:
The Swiss and Norwegians, through their own agreements and EFTA, have the right to work, live and set up a business anywhere in the EU. That is a reciprocal arrangement - other Europeans (including Poles, for example) can go and set up businesses or work in Norway or Switzerland.
. If British people want to be able to work or set up businesses in Norway, Switzerland or for that matter Germany or France, then we will have to accept that others - Swiss, Norwegians, Poles - can do the same here.
As far as I can see, this is not the arrangement anyone in government is proposing post Brexit.
On 16 Mar 2017 at 9:29am Tom Pain wrote:
No,not an interesting question at all. Who really cares? It seems that a lot of sly troublemakers are making people not born in the UK nervous about their status here. I was talking about this with a German lady yesterday. I assured her that the vast majority of British people have no problem with "foreign" nationals,they love Europe but not the EU. The EU is NOT Europe it is a corporate land grab. Any attempt to repatriate so called EU citizens would be resisted by the British people and their leaders flung from office. I'm certain that this is correct and I hope I reassured her and anyone else who has any qualms on the subject.
On 16 Mar 2017 at 9:40am Deja Vu wrote:
I would quite like to see this link Number Cruncher, it is wildly inaccurate...
"According to the ESCC website, 3.2 per cent of the county's population have non-UK nationalities."
In 2015, the UK population was 13.5% foreign-born (up from 7% in 1993) and 8.9% foreign citizens (up from 4% in 1993).
On 16 Mar 2017 at 9:42am Pedro wrote:
Well then, lets guarantee EU citizens right to remain in the UK post Brexit without compromise (who currently live here), and then this can be put to rest.
The referendum, and stakeholders from BOTH sides have created a lot of uncertainty and drama for EU citizens living in the UK (and surely British citizens living in mainland Europe), and it needs to be resolved by the UK government and EU as a priority. We can then all then convincingly unite against the scaremongerers and bigoted people committing hate crimes against our non UK EU citizens.
On 16 Mar 2017 at 11:47am Oops wrote:
Deja Vu, r u confusing 'county' (3.2%) with 'country' (13.5%) ? Just asking, no malice.
On 16 Mar 2017 at 11:59am Number Cruncher wrote:
... and "foreign born" is not the same as "citizens of the EU, other than UK citizens".
On 16 Mar 2017 at 1:11pm Deja Vu wrote:
@Number Cruncher, I questioned this: "3.2 per cent of the county's population have non-UK nationalities", not sure why you think that is relevant to the EU.
The actual number according to migration watch is "8.9% foreign citizens" - "foreign" is the same as "non-UK" after all.
I only asked for the link, I would be quite interested to see the numbers ESCC are working from (it might explain the lack of planning), no need to take it personally it is not an attack on you.
On 16 Mar 2017 at 3:29pm Observer wrote:
Is that 8.9% from Migration Watch the figure for Sussex or the UK overall?
On 16 Mar 2017 at 4:17pm Deja Vu wrote:
The country as a whole to match what was said:
"3.2 per cent of the county's population "
On 16 Mar 2017 at 5:35pm Bard of Brexit wrote:
My heart did sing! My spirit leapt!
We kicked the Poles
Out of Sports Direct
A people, proud
Now we are free
To kiss Trumps arse
…whilst on our knee
Free to be small
Free to be poor
So pull up the drawbridge
And Lock up the door
Lets bring back hanging
Grammars and marriage
No more will those graduates
Sneer and disparage
Who cares if every one
Has to be thrifty
We `re back
On 16 Mar 2017 at 6:25pm Observer wrote:
Deja Vu, I wouldn't normally say this but are you alright?
3.2% of the COUNTY's population - therefore SUSSEX's population
The 8.9% refers to the UK - so not just Sussex
These two things can both be right?
On 17 Mar 2017 at 9:12am Deja Vu wrote:
Yes you are correct, I have misread (phone screen small, eyes dodgy), however that still doesn't change anything, 3.2% cannot be correct.
So I would quite like to see the link, if ESCC are working from those number it might explain the complete lack of local planning.
I would be quite interested in contact them to find out what figures they are planning from.
East Sussex demographics show:
Brighton & Hove: 17%
I do have population levels for those areas (so can't work out the average), but as the smallest number is over 3.2% the average cannot be 3.2%...
Check it out here »
On 17 Mar 2017 at 9:30am Pedro wrote:
@Deja vu. I must say, even though I am pro-immigration and in favour of a diverse multicultural society, I was surprised to see East Sussex was as low as 3.2% for non-UK citizens. It would be interesting to see the source as well. If its accurate, then I assume that the rates fall dramatically in rural areas, and East Sussex's largest cities and towns don't tell the full story.
On 17 Mar 2017 at 12:04pm Deja Vu wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I am not anti immigration (I work for an overseas company and would be out of a job if there was no immigration), I am anti ESCC.
Although I suspect in this instance Number Cruncher has just made the numbers up, I was curious to see if it was a real link (it's just as likely ESCC made the numbers up).
On 17 Mar 2017 at 1:59pm Number Cruncher wrote:
I repeat ...
The figure of 3.2 per cent does NOT represent the number of non-UK citizens living in East Sussex.
It is the number of non-UK citizens living in East Sussex who are citizens of other EU states.
That was the question that was raised by the original poster, in relation to Lewes.
On 17 Mar 2017 at 4:47pm Deja Vu wrote:
@Number cruncher, you're contradicting yourself.
You didn't say 3.2% was the number of Non-UK EU citizens, you actually said "Non-UK EU citizen numbers will, of course, be smaller."
If it's true share the link...