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Heard this before?

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On 9 Feb 2017 at 10:54pm Clifford wrote:
When the French and the Dutch voted to reject the European 'Constitution' in 2005 look what happened:
'When French and Dutch voters rejected the European constitution in 2005 (and according to Valery Giscard d'Estaing, the current Lisbon treaty is the "same as the constitution"), they were sneeringly insulted by their betters in Brussels. Neil Kinnock said it was a "triumph of ignorance". Andrew Duff, Liberal Democrat MEP, labelled the "rejectionists" as an "odd bunch of racists, xenophobes, nationalists, communists, the disappointed centre left and the generally pissed off".'
They were made to vote again until they gave the 'right' answer. As were the Irish later. Isn't it odd how history repeats itself?
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On 9 Feb 2017 at 11:05pm Clifford the dull wrote:
Please clifford. Stop. You, pedro, newms, Earl of Lewes, the Greek etc etc etc just stop. The country is ruined and more importantly the Lewes forum is ruined. Politely P@#s of you boring smart@rses self indulgent smug fools.
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On 9 Feb 2017 at 11:50pm Splifford wrote:
Goldman Sachs and the Giant Lizards.What a great band! They are on at the Con (spiracy) Club next month.See you there!
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On 10 Feb 2017 at 8:54am The Greek wrote:
I'm glad I have a reputation.
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On 10 Feb 2017 at 9:36am Pedro wrote:
@ The Greek. Me too! It seems the people who moan about us are the utterly forgettable or the eternally anonymous. I can't help but feel a bit sorry for them.
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On 10 Feb 2017 at 12:21pm Zzz.. wrote:
Giscard d'Estaing was right and Brexit has been a 'triumph of ignorance' too. It's simple to confirm by looking at the voting demographics. The two main constituents that voted Brexit were the uneducated and the old. The uneducated voted mainly because their own poverty made them bitter and they wanted to give someone a kick, stupidly exercising the only power they had to kick themselves right in the teeth, ensuring that their poverty would worsen and the life chances for their kids reduce. The old, looking to the past with rose-tinted spectacles, wanted to get back to the 'good old days'. No one with a clear memory unencumbered by bitterness could think of the pre-EU 1970s as the good old days! Or the 40s or 50s come to that. The 60s? Well, good for some, but not very many in the scheme of things.
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On 10 Feb 2017 at 3:36pm Billy Bull wrote:
Nope...not heard it anywhere before. I've heard a lot of people asking for a vote on the terms of the Brexit deal which is reasonable considering very nearly half the country don't want to leave, but no-one asking for a referendum to change the result. Tell me Clifford, what is it about building strawman arguments to justify your bias that you like so much?


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