On 25 Mar 2017 at 10:47am Clifford wrote:
Boris wrote: 'I think you will find the ref in 1975 was about joining the common market...'
No, the 1975 referendum was on whether the UK should remain in the EEC. We joined on 1 January 1973. Over the following years the European Economic Community became the European Community and then the European Unity, all without us being asked again whether we agreed. When we were asked we said 'No'.
On 25 Mar 2017 at 11:00am Boris wrote:
correct, apologies, I could have been accused of fake news.
On 25 Mar 2017 at 1:43pm Clifford wrote:
Yes, Boris. Not directed at you personally but it does seem to be a general misconception that we ever voted to be in the EEC.
On 25 Mar 2017 at 2:28pm Tears in my. Eyes wrote:
Please go out in the sunshine. You have just ruined my lunch
On 25 Mar 2017 at 6:23pm bobobo wrote:
"a general misconception that we ever voted to be in the EEC"
err, isn't 67% of people voting to remain in the EEC the same as the country saying "we want to be in the EEC"? If 52% is a mandate to leave then 67% is a mandate to remain I'd think?
I made a point in another thread I think you're referring to. The point I made was actually that I found the anger and "shut up we've voted and are leaving part" of the discussions strange.
The reason wasn't that because we'd had a vote in 1975 so should stay in. It was because since we joined eurosceptics have been trying to reverse this so the "shut up we've voted narrative" is tired and hypocritical
On 26 Mar 2017 at 8:29am W S Churchill wrote:
... and Britain never voted to join World War Two.
Decisions like that are often left to governments. It's why we have parliamentary democracy.
On 26 Mar 2017 at 1:47pm Boris wrote:
Three names that sum it all up. Nick Clegg, Tim Farron and lastly Alastair Campbell. It appears , judging on yesterday , that these are the ones that speak for the 48%.
I have been watching Graham Philips blog on yesterday and the standard answer to the question ' What do you love about the EU?' is ' I love Europe and consider myself European'
These are the people that constantly refer to Leavers as being thick and misinformed.
Also the offensive nature of many of the banners that were being carried yesterday made parts of the march look more like an NF rally instead of a so called liberal alliance.
On 26 Mar 2017 at 2:09pm Ben shaw wrote:
England are playing Lithuania tonight at football. How come we are still in the Euro's if we are meant to be out? I can't understand it.
On 26 Mar 2017 at 2:41pm ringo wrote:
In a parliamentary democracy on matters of constitutional change it is right that the people should be consulted and entry into the common market represented a huge change as it moved power and decision making away from Westminster to Brussels with no accountability as did the maastricht and lisbon treaty.
Agree about the remain banners, very nasty - further proof of their hate filled views.
On 26 Mar 2017 at 2:45pm Stewpot wrote:
I over heard a conversation on the train home from London last night where a woman who was being very loud about her wishes to remain in the EU was asked who her MEP was and which way she had voted in the previous European election. Her reply was that who her MEP was and how she had voted in the EU election was irrelevant with regards to todays march. She went on to say that today had been about being European and remaining in Europe..
The carriage chuckled.
On 26 Mar 2017 at 3:39pm Beached shell wrote:
I voted out so that we could keep the British pound. Could never understand this Euro currency, it was all toy town stuff as the building in the notes never existed anyway.
On 26 Mar 2017 at 4:19pm @Beacched Shell wrote:
Yeah, that Euro we had before the referendum was terrible!
On 26 Mar 2017 at 5:07pm ClarifiedButler wrote:
Stewpot...sounds fairly typical of a certain type of remain voter i.e. not particularly engaged before the referendum but now suddenly an expert on all things European and arrogant enough to ram it down people's throats in public.
On 26 Mar 2017 at 7:29pm Lewes Voter 3 wrote:
I saw photos of banners in newspapers on their web sites. They were rude and offensive and disgusting. I belted my lads for bringing language like that home when they were children. Not suitable for a family to see and the bottom feeders in that march subjecting children to them must be investigated by social services. They are unsafe. I am telling everyone to remember that they have now seen the mentality of the remoaners. The marchers are the enemies of the people, and the newspaper said this on the front page only a few weeks ago and I saw it. Anyone who gives anything to enemies of the people in Lewes will have me to answer to when we LEAVE after Wednesday.
On 26 Mar 2017 at 7:31pm Proportionally Represent wrote:
@Stewpot ... it is, of course, a dumb question to ask "who is your MEP?"
As voters in South East England, we have 10 of them. I've only met two of them and put down the fact that I can't remember all of their names as being a failure on their part, not mine.
On 26 Mar 2017 at 9:52pm lewes Voter 3 wrote:
I don't suppose the banners were any worse than a lot of the comments posted on this forum by leavers.
Also, just so you know, we are not going anywhere on Wednesday! If we go anywhere, it is at least 2 years away.